Would you play away from Nakatani's Horses

[docicu3]

As far as angles go I am curious about the feeling the jury here has about a recently injured jock and whether you would steer clear of sub jocks on C Nak's mounts for the next few days...

As many of you here know C Nak was injured breaking a clavicle during a spill early Saturday AM that will keep him from honoring his mounts for some period of time to be determined.

Obviously a superior horse would have to be taken into account but where do you draw this line??? Not that C Nak was tearing it up of late....

[2Hot4TV]

Originally Posted by docicu3

As far as angles go I am curious about the feeling the jury here has about a recently injured jock and whether you would steer clear of sub jocks on C Nak's mounts for the next few days...

As many of you here know C Nak was injured breaking a clavicle during a spill early Saturday AM that will keep him from honoring his mounts for some period of time to be determined.

Obviously a superior horse would have to be taken into account but where do you draw this line??? Not that C Nak was tearing it up of late....

Been drawing a line thru most of his mounts because they have not been fast enought to win.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV

Been drawing a line thru most of his mounts because they have not been fast enought to win.

I've been drawing a line through his mounts because his head aint in the ballgame 90% of the time.

[docicu3]

Given that CN gets quite abit of favorable press and comment I am surprised how far he has fallen from favor here.....so lets amend this to CN is riding a horse that looks otherwise playable for price expected and or part of a tri or super your putting together.....given the limited time a replacement jock would have with his mount are you still crossing out or are there horses you would actually include because the jock replacing him is an upgrade.....

[GPK]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

IMO getting away from a mount because a guy like Nakatani is on is a mistake. The horse is what I bet. Obviously a huge upgrade is noted in my handicapping, but has little to no impact on my wagers and it shouldn't.

Im the opposite....and it goes for both Vertical and Horizontal bets. Vertically,(Exacta's only. I don't play tri's or supers) im more likely to leave him out, especially on short priced horses. I have seen him quit too many times to have a ton of confidence in him. Horizontally, I am more apt to use him, but rarely will I single. I realize this is based only on personal experience...but it's my two cents worth.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

IMO getting away from a mount because a guy like Nakatani is on is a mistake. The horse is what I bet. Obviously a huge upgrade is noted in my handicapping, but has little to no impact on my wagers and it shouldn't.

It is all about the horse. Who knows you might get a guy replacing Nak riding for a trainer for the first time. You would think the jock would do anything he could to start riding for Oneill or Dollasce etc. Plus I also think that you might get better odds on the horse if say Matt Garcia was on instead of Nak. I think BTW says it all the time, the jock is not as important as alot of people make them out to be.

[docicu3]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

It is all about the horse. Who knows you might get a guy replacing Nak riding for a trainer for the first time. You would think the jock would do anything he could to start riding for Oneill or Dollasce etc. Plus I also think that you might get better odds on the horse if say Matt Garcia was on instead of Nak. I think BTW says it all the time, the jock is not as important as alot of people make them out to be.

I disagree with "the jock is not important"....while it is certainly true that a good jock cannot make a bad horse perform any better than it's talent will allow....but a solid jock replacing a less skilled one on a solid horse may make the difference between 1st, 2nd or 3rd.....Garcia today had a horse predicted to be competitive ES in the 8th at the Big A....Cotto didn't take or didn't have the advantage of GoGo Shoot's ES shown again today 12/12/07 (8).

Garcia stayed clear of Ramon and Maragh, the other jocks busy eliminating two other contenders in the race one by check the other by foul in the top of the stretch and the ES advantage does the rest....If Ramon doesn't come over on Hill the race might have been slightly different but Garcia rode the winner today and deserves the credit for allowing the horse to perform....some call it racing luck but it certainly is not totally random or we are all wasting our time playing the inner in the winter.....bias sure random no!!

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

IMO getting away from a mount because a guy like Nakatani is on is a mistake. The horse is what I bet. Obviously a huge upgrade is noted in my handicapping, but has little to no impact on my wagers and it shouldn't.

How are those dime supers treating you champ? Any 3 figure scores??

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I actually did make a nice score last week. You can read all about it, you know where. Oh wait....

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