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Old 06-21-2007, 10:04 PM
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Old 06-21-2007, 10:49 PM
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I agree with Kirk Spencer! And I feel bad about the diabetic going into shock and then being tasered..those cops should be fired! But I heartily diagree that all potential policemen visuallize using brute force with impunity as an incentive to join the force. That is just not true. And btw...you sure have become cynical lately!
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Old 06-22-2007, 12:52 PM
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I agree with Kirk Spencer! And I feel bad about the diabetic going into shock and then being tasered..those cops should be fired! But I heartily diagree that all potential policemen visuallize using brute force with impunity as an incentive to join the force. That is just not true. And btw...you sure have become cynical lately!
Yeah, a government imprisioning people for 5 YEARS at Guantanamo without charging them with anything will do a lot to make a girl feel like her country doesn't give two sh*ts for the things the Founding Fathers fought for.

(In the case of the cops, though, that was just stoopid.)
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Yeah, a government imprisioning people for 5 YEARS at Guantanamo without charging them with anything will do a lot to make a girl feel like her country doesn't give two sh*ts for the things the Founding Fathers fought for.

(In the case of the cops, though, that was just stoopid.)
I know it has taken a long time. But this has been challenged legally and the White House is going to have come up with some better reasoning before long.
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Old 06-23-2007, 03:40 PM
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I know it has taken a long time. But this has been challenged legally and the White House is going to have come up with some better reasoning before long.
And I'm sure that will give those men those five years back and Jose Padilla (American citizen) back his sanity.

It really makes me wish I believed in Hell. But I don't and so I don't think there will ever be any kind of reckoning for the men and women who endorsed these policies. They'll die wealthy old men and women in their beds, never having spent a night in jail, let alone five years.
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Old 06-24-2007, 11:18 AM
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And I'm sure that will give those men those five years back and Jose Padilla (American citizen) back his sanity.

It really makes me wish I believed in Hell. But I don't and so I don't think there will ever be any kind of reckoning for the men and women who endorsed these policies. They'll die wealthy old men and women in their beds, never having spent a night in jail, let alone five years.
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Remember this...conservatives will claim that they are "keepers of Constitutional rights" and that those same rights therein provided do not provide nor apply for "liberals".
Of course basic rights as defined should be applied equally and fairly. So what if the Dixie Chicks express free speech, so what? So what if one opposes a "war" (illegal invasion)? We've got cages under the West Side highway where your rights can be heard.
Seems to me that those that justify their defense of the very premises on which this once great country was founded are the same ones that are doing their damndest to bring about freedom's demise.
Signing statements? Military commissions and not habeus corpus?
And so it goes....if allowed and unchallenged.
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Old 06-24-2007, 12:08 PM
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WRT modern-day liberals, such as yourself, I find it hard to believe you give two sh!ts for the things the Founders fought for...

I am not trying to be facetious, otoh, nor do I think the tendency "deify" them warranted. I just find it a little amusing when liberals want to start talking about the constitution and the founding fathers (and, they clearly would not be big fans of Bush et al. either).
What do you think I give two sh*ts for, B, since apparently you know me so well? Go ahead, tell me. I love how modern-day conseratives such as yourself know everything about me.
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Conservatives and liberals all blow and eat unshredded wheat making them infidels
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Conservatives and liberals all blow and eat unshredded wheat making them infidels
I think you forgot a "do" before "blow."
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Here's my vote for cop of the year! I clipped this from a news story from a couple of weeks ago....

Albany police Sgt. Kinshishi Adams, 34, was lying in bed Sunday when a .40 caliber pistol she kept under her pillow discharged and struck her in her left wrist, Dougherty County Police Chief Don Cheek said.

Adams was listed in good condition Tuesday at Phoebe Putney Memorial Hospital, hospital spokeswoman Valerie Benton said.

“She sustained an extremely serious wound to the left wrist and underwent surgery (Sunday) night,” Cheek said. “Everything indicates it was just a freak accident. She apparently sleeps with a weapon under her pillow, and somehow it discharged.

Both Cheek and Albany police stressed the importance of gun safety in the wake of the accident.

“We train on gun safety and we stress gun safety, but even the people who handle guns for a living, accidents happen,” Cheek said. “We just stress that firearms are not toys, and even people experienced with firearms occasionally have accidents.”
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Old 06-24-2007, 01:37 PM
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oh, and genuinerisk, as much as i agree with your positions, it's kinda nuts to argue politics with people on internet message boards!
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What do you think I give two sh*ts for, B, since apparently you know me so well? Go ahead, tell me. I love how modern-day conseratives such as yourself know everything about me.
I'm a modern day conservative, but I don't know everything about myself much less you, Gen. LMFAO
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Old 06-24-2007, 05:32 PM
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I am really not a conservative. I have many issues with them as well. I promise to send you a link to next time I blast lots of conservatives at this other site I frequent. I know it is hard to fathom that if you are not a liberal and/or a Dem, it does not necessarily follow that you are a conservative and/or Repub. Don't be one of those suckers that falls for this false dichotomy the media plugs away at every day.

Also, I ever said I know everything about you...I simply said "I find it hard to believe that..." IOW, many of the things you advocate would either (a) not be supported by the Founders and/or (b) be deemed unconstitutional by the Founders.
Uh-huh. And yet you're perfectly content to pigeonhole people whom you see as being on the opposite side of the political spectrum (such as myself). But heaven forbid they do the same thing to you.

Finish your "simple" statement- what you said was "I find it hard to believe that you give two sh*ts..." blah blah blah. Classy. Oh so classy. I'll have to start using the same sort of language towards you since it seems to your preferred method of talking to me.
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Old 06-24-2007, 05:33 PM
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I'm a modern day conservative, but I don't know everything about myself much less you, Gen. LMFAO
In all seriousness (and civility), what do you see as a modern-day conservative, Cajun? I'm sincerely curious.
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Old 06-24-2007, 07:25 PM
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In all seriousness (and civility), what do you see as a modern-day conservative, Cajun? I'm sincerely curious.
Honestly, more a classical liberal than anything else...

Seeing the value in the traditions and morals that were handed down by our forefathers are typically a conservative value (which is why I think Baba was stating what he stated.)

I believe in individual liberty and individual responsibility... I don't want our government taking care of us like we're babies. If we spent more time 'doing' as a society instead of complaining about our current governmental situation, we'd be a lot better off. Most modern day conservatives don't believe that the solution to every problem is bigger government. Most problems can be dealt with one-on-one, each person face to face. Bigger government just gets in the way (most of the time.) The line between the Republican Party and the Democratic Party is getting thinner and thinner... most modern day conservatives probably don't even know what party to attach themselves to. Hell, I know I'm confused...

Here are a few things I believe in:

1.) The right to carry arms.
2.) Fiscal conservatism (aka low taxation.)
3.) I don't believe that it's the business of the government to promote particular religions, or to interfere in the private lives of citizens.

When you really look at it (call me crazy, I guess), you would think that modern day conservatives would be allies with liberals. Conservatives defend the historical, institutional and moral basis upon which the Liberals might seek to improve conditions today, and aspire to a better tomorrow for the future. In other words, can't we all just work as a team? Heavens...
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Honestly, more a classical liberal than anything else...

Seeing the value in the traditions and morals that were handed down by our forefathers are typically a conservative value (which is why I think Baba was stating what he stated.)

I believe in individual liberty and individual responsibility... I don't want our government taking care of us like we're babies. If we spent more time 'doing' as a society instead of complaining about our current governmental situation, we'd be a lot better off. Most modern day conservatives don't believe that the solution to every problem is bigger government. Most problems can be dealt with one-on-one, each person face to face. Bigger government just gets in the way (most of the time.) The line between the Republican Party and the Democratic Party is getting thinner and thinner... most modern day conservatives probably don't even know what party to attach themselves to. Hell, I know I'm confused...

Here are a few things I believe in:

1.) The right to carry arms.
2.) Fiscal conservatism (aka low taxation.)
3.) I don't believe that it's the business of the government to promote particular religions, or to interfere in the private lives of citizens.

When you really look at it (call me crazy, I guess), you would think that modern day conservatives would be allies with liberals. Conservatives defend the historical, institutional and moral basis upon which the Liberals might seek to improve conditions today, and aspire to a better tomorrow for the future. In other words, can't we all just work as a team? Heavens...

Well said Cajun! I agree completely. I'd also add I'm pro-choice, pro death penalty, and could care less if gay couples marry.
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Honestly, more a classical liberal than anything else...

Seeing the value in the traditions and morals that were handed down by our forefathers are typically a conservative value (which is why I think Baba was stating what he stated.)

I believe in individual liberty and individual responsibility... I don't want our government taking care of us like we're babies. If we spent more time 'doing' as a society instead of complaining about our current governmental situation, we'd be a lot better off. Most modern day conservatives don't believe that the solution to every problem is bigger government. Most problems can be dealt with one-on-one, each person face to face. Bigger government just gets in the way (most of the time.) The line between the Republican Party and the Democratic Party is getting thinner and thinner... most modern day conservatives probably don't even know what party to attach themselves to. Hell, I know I'm confused...

Here are a few things I believe in:

1.) The right to carry arms.
2.) Fiscal conservatism (aka low taxation.)
3.) I don't believe that it's the business of the government to promote particular religions, or to interfere in the private lives of citizens.

When you really look at it (call me crazy, I guess), you would think that modern day conservatives would be allies with liberals. Conservatives defend the historical, institutional and moral basis upon which the Liberals might seek to improve conditions today, and aspire to a better tomorrow for the future. In other words, can't we all just work as a team? Heavens...
in other words, you are a libertarian. welcome to the small party!
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Well said Cajun! I agree completely. I'd also add I'm pro-choice, pro death penalty, and could care less if gay couples marry.
i've been told more than once i would be a libertarian, but i don't know much about that party or its platforms.

i also could care less if gays marry, i'm pro-choice, i think tho i'm turning towards anti-death penalty except in certain extreme cases, even then i'm really starting to shy away from it, i'm for small govt, fiscal conservative....
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I hate classifications but I'll look into the libertarians.
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