Another breakdown at Turfway

[Seattleallstar]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

He should have joined us and gave his parents a break! HAHA I took my 3 year old!

Cajun I love that freakin place, hangin with the big mouse takin pics. Then watching that band come on every 15 minutes. Pizza is ok, and I love the games. Im just not allowed to play in the ball room area anymore

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

Woodbine and Turfway lost many days to bad track conditions. Also, the tracks would get wet and freeze and then melt making the conditions very dangerous. Keeneland and Cali do not have these problems. I think their dirt surfaces could have improved by fixing them. But Woodbine and Turfway cannot control the weather.

Don't you think that further testing on synthetic surfaces should have been done though before installing them? It seems to me that the clumping, etc. going on with the polytrack isn't beneficial either.

Originally Posted by Seattleallstar

actually I was sick, and i had to cancel a few meetings with you know who. I hope to make it up to her this afternoon after work

Make it up to her?
Dude she was thrilled, you know damn well shes going out with other guys, you told me that.
Shes a pincushion. She will be bummed that you arent sick anymore, probably hoping you had malaria or something like that. You know, curable and not fatal but that would keep you housebound for a while.

Originally Posted by eurobounce

What do you mean trainers dont have the option to run on dirt. Trainers can go to Mountaineer or to Buleah to race on dirt if they desire. Granted that may not appeal to them but they have an option. And trainers at Turf and Oak dont have the option to run on Turf. So what is the difference.

The difference is that not one track in the US is ripping out turf courses and replacing them with poly. Thats the difference. And you know what? Since its like brown turf, thats exactly what they SHOULD do.

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Don't you think that further testing on synthetic surfaces should have been done though before installing them? It seems to me that the clumping, etc. going on with the polytrack isn't beneficial either.

Not really. I mean, where are you going to test. I know this may not sound right, but the only way to test is to install it and race on it and then fix it. I also think that Cali and Arlington jumped the gun. It makes sense for Keeneland, Turfway and Woodbine.

Originally Posted by eurobounce

How does anyone get information that is not public? They typically no someone close to the situation. That is how I know. Just because you know someone who is close to the situation doesnt mean that you have a vested interest. If you want to call caring about the well-being of a freind as vested interest, then I guess I have one because I want my friend and his company to succeed.

Just wanted this quote saved thats all.

Originally Posted by oracle80

The difference is that not one track in the US is ripping out turf courses and replacing them with poly. Thats the difference. And you know what? Since its like brown turf, thats exactly what they SHOULD do.

Doest matter. You contention is that trainers do not have the option to run on dirt and I proved you wrong. Trainers at Oaklawn and Turfway do not have the option to run on turf so they need to ship. They can do the same with their dirt horses. So again, I make you look dumb.

Originally Posted by eurobounce

Not really. I mean, where are you going to test. I know this may not sound right, but the only way to test is to install it and race on it and then fix it. I also think that Cali and Arlington jumped the gun. It makes sense for Keeneland, Turfway and Woodbine.

He wants his friends company to succeed. They get paid after its installed, if you choose to rip it out later they keep the money. Its in his friends best interest that it be tested at 10 mill per shot, you know someplace around there.

Originally Posted by eurobounce

Doest matter. You contention is that trainers do not have the option to run on dirt and I proved you wrong. Trainers at Oaklawn and Turfway do not have the option to run on turn so they need to ship. They can do the same with their dirt horses. So again, I make you look dumb.

Not in Cali they dont.

[philcski]

Oracle, what makes you so angry??

Relax, dude. The end of the world is NOT coming.

Hey Oralce AKA Liar--when are you going to show the board where I stated that I lived in Cincinnati? Because you said that I said I lived in Cincinnati.

Originally Posted by oracle80

Not in Cali they dont.

Turf Paradise. I have also said that Cali jumped the gun as well.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

Not really. I mean, where are you going to test. I know this may not sound right, but the only way to test is to install it and race on it and then fix it. I also think that Cali and Arlington jumped the gun. It makes sense for Keeneland, Turfway and Woodbine.

I just think that if you make a $10 million dollar investment like that, you'd want to know what you were getting (or at least some clue as to what you were getting.) I guess that ignorance is bliss...

Originally Posted by eurobounce

Turf Paradise. I have also said that Cali jumped the gun as well.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Euro, ummm, Turf paradise is in Arizona dude,not Cali!!
LOL!!!

Originally Posted by oracle80

He wants his friends company to succeed. They get paid after its installed, if you choose to rip it out later they keep the money. Its in his friends best interest that it be tested at 10 mill per shot, you know someplace around there.

His company is Turfway--lol. They paid $10mm. You are so laughable.

Originally Posted by oracle80

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Euro, ummm, Turf paradise is in Arizona dude,not Cali!!
LOL!!!

They still can ship. Mountaineer is in WV but trainers in KY can ship to WV to race. Why cant Cali trainers ship to Arizona.

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

I just think that if you make a $10 million dollar investment like that, you'd want to know what you were getting (or at least some clue as to what you were getting.) I guess that ignorance is bliss...

NO NO NO!!! You are supposed to buy the hype and do the due diligence as you go along.
You think thats how Warren Buffet started? Doubtful.

[todko]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

Both horses were coming off a long layoff due to an illness and we wanted to make sure they were ok.

A long layoff caused by respiratory issues?

Gimme a break. Nobody scopes unless they suspect respiratory problems related to the race that the horse just ran.

Both horses had the same illness?

I don't know you -- but pal -- you look like a liar to me.

Originally Posted by todko

A long layoff caused by respiratory issues?

Gimme a break. Nobody scopes unless they suspect respiratory problems related to the race that the horse just ran.

Both horses had the same illness?

I don't know you -- but pal -- you look like a liar to me.

Now now now. I'm sure its very healthy for a horses respiratory and immune system to be breathing polymer coated tires. The very suggestion that someday it may be found to be damaging is preposterous and unfounded!!!!

Originally Posted by todko

A long layoff caused by respiratory issues?

Gimme a break. Nobody scopes unless they suspect respiratory problems related to the race that the horse just ran.

Both horses had the same illness?

I don't know you -- but pal -- you look like a liar to me.

Well one horse just raced after getting lose and sliding about 40 feet on the parking lot. The other horse hasnt raced since before labor day and he has been sick off and on. I am not a trainer or a vet. I do not know why they decided to scope. Maybe they jock said something--I dont know. The point is that they came back clean.