US Open Contest

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by Scav

Nobody could beat this guy on one leg, he is SUPERMAN!!!

I saw 2 perfectly good legs.




Let's not exaggerate things.

[Antitrust32]

Kevin,

I bet you liked that commercial (I know I did) with Earl Woods talking while they are showing clips of Tiger from all ages.. and at the end he says "I told Tiger that he will never meet a person who is as mentally tough as he is, and he never has, and he never will."

Seems pretty fitting for this week doesnt it.

[ateamstupid]

Go Goliath! Yay!

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[SCUDSBROTHER]

2 days in a row, the guy needed a 4 on a par 5 to win the U.S. OPEN, and couldn't do it. There is no doubt that he played (for his ability) incredibly well, but he doesn't have the game to be a major champion. People don't realize it, but Tiger did the game a huge favor by making sure it took a major talent to win a major golf tournament. By "doesn't have the game," I am mainly talking about length. Rocco's length hurt him. It is a flaw(sorry, Kev.)

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by Mortimer

I saw 2 perfectly good legs.




Let's not exaggerate things.

I agree. Tiger himself stated it only hurt AFTER contact, meaning it didn't affect his play.

Not a bad little player. Triple career grand slam now...won them all at least 3 times at age 32. He may just have a future.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

I agree. Tiger himself stated it only hurt AFTER contact, meaning it didn't affect his play.

Not a bad little player. Triple career grand slam now...won them all at least 3 times at age 32. He may just have a future.

If you really believe that your follow through does not affect your swing.. then you must have never played golf before.

Unreal.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

2 days in a row, the guy needed a 4 on a par 5 to win the U.S. OPEN, and couldn't do it. There is no doubt that he played (for his ability) incredibly well, but he doesn't have the game to be a major champion. People don't realize it, but Tiger did the game a huge favor by making sure it took a major talent to win a major golf tournament. By "doesn't have the game," I am mainly talking about length. Rocco's length hurt him. It is a flaw(sorry, Kev.)

Length is not a major factor...it helps but multiple major winners who were not long...

Larry Nelson, Hale Irwin, Jose Maria Olazabel, Lee Janzen, Nick Faldo, Curtis Strange, etc, you could go on forever.

Even Zach Johnson who won the Masters last year is not a long hitter. You go 90 holes dead even with Woods you have the game to be a major champion. He isn't though.

[Scav]

Alright, who won this thing? Someone tally up however the points were suppose to be tallied. GPK is in CHARGE!!

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

If you really believe that your follow through does not affect your swing.. then you must have never played golf before.

Unreal.

I was once a 12 handicap at my best when I played quite a bit...not great, but I've played hundreds of rounds of golf (cut back significantly and the one or two times I go out per year are not pretty and can't get out of the 90s any more.) I don't think it affected him all that much. I saw a large chunk of his shots on the weekend...not today, but he seemed ok to me.

No, I know quite a bit about swinging a golf club and how the follow through affects your swing. I've played with a really bad back and my game wasn't that affected. He was hurt, but I really don't think he shoots 15 under if his knee is perfect.

(man...a rare time I agree with Morty and I still get roasted!!!)

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

I was once a 12 handicap at my best when I played quite a bit...not great, but I've played hundreds of rounds of golf (cut back significantly and the one or two times I go out per year are not pretty and can't get out of the 90s any more.) I don't think it affected him all that much. I saw a large chunk of his shots on the weekend...not today, but he seemed ok to me.

No, I know quite a bit about swinging a golf club and how the follow through affects your swing. I've played with a really bad back and my game wasn't that affected. He was hurt, but I really don't think he shoots 15 under if his knee is perfect.

(man...a rare time I agree with Morty and I still get roasted!!!)

Have you walked 91 holes off of knee surgery, Dr. Phil?

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

Length is not a major factor...it helps but multiple major winners who were not long...

Larry Nelson, Hale Irwin, Jose Maria Olazabel, Lee Janzen, Nick Faldo, Curtis Strange, etc, you could go on forever.

Even Zach Johnson who won the Masters last year is not a long hitter. You go 90 holes dead even with Woods you have the game to be a major champion. He isn't though.

It's the reason he lost this. He couldn't hit 18 in 2, and 2 putt.Most of the guys you mentioned are from an era when length wasn't as important as it is now. Zach Johnson is the exception. If that wasn't a fluke, then what is?

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Have you walked 91 holes off of knee surgery, Dr. Phil?

I was wrong. I am so sorry to all. I have walked 54 holes in one day carrying my own bag in a snowstorm with all 18 holes up hill off of a nose blowing. does that count??

[GPK]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

2 days in a row, the guy needed a 4 on a par 5 to win the U.S. OPEN, and couldn't do it. There is no doubt that he played (for his ability) incredibly well, but he doesn't have the game to be a major champion. People don't realize it, but Tiger did the game a huge favor by making sure it took a major talent to win a major golf tournament. By "doesn't have the game," I am mainly talking about length. Rocco's length hurt him. It is a flaw(sorry, Kev.)

Notice how Tiger didn't panic of the last 2-3 holes, when he was down 1 shot. He knew he had a distinct advantage on the 18th hole. Many others would have began to press severly being down like that and just make matters worse. Tiger is always aware of the situation at hand and knew that there was no need to press. He didn't panick on 16 when he hit that incredible shot from the fairway bunker on the other hole. I'm telling ya, people have no idea how great that shot was. He just has the mental toughness that others do not. I told the guy at work, before either player had even hit on the first sudden death hole, that Rocco was dead mentally. I could see it on his face. He knew he had his chance and didn't get it done then. You have the give the guy some credit...he played the last 6 holes in 3 under par going head to head against the best in the world. It just simply wasn't enough against Tiger.

I have said it before...being alive during this era and being able to witness what we see when Tiger plays is something that I know I will cherish. He is a credit to the sport of golf and deserves every accolade tossed his way.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

I was once a 12 handicap at my best when I played quite a bit...not great, but I've played hundreds of rounds of golf (cut back significantly and the one or two times I go out per year are not pretty and can't get out of the 90s any more.) I don't think it affected him all that much. I saw a large chunk of his shots on the weekend...not today, but he seemed ok to me.

No, I know quite a bit about swinging a golf club and how the follow through affects your swing. I've played with a really bad back and my game wasn't that affected. He was hurt, but I really don't think he shoots 15 under if his knee is perfect.

(man...a rare time I agree with Morty and I still get roasted!!!)

Like Coach pointed out, walking 91 holes on a grueling US Open course, against the best players in the world is a little different than playing 18 with your buddies w/ a bad back, especially since his knee was not healing like Tiger thought it would.. to the point he didnt even walk 18 holes til the first round (which I pointed out earlier).

I dont think anyone was shooting 15 under.. I think he would have had a much easier time winning if he was healthy and had been able to prepare for the golf tourney in a more conventional manner. ( I bet he could have shot 5 or 6 under).

I watched both of his weekend rounds in its' entirety, and he almost fell to the ground in pain a couple times immediately after making contact, and he was limping around the back nine saturday. I just think there is no possible way that the knee did not affect his swing. It was raw ability and unfathomable mental toughness that willed Tiger to victory.

I really believe we witnessed one of the greatest victories ever in a major championship this week.

[Antitrust32]

well guys, its been real. I'm gonna to home and watch highlights!!

I personally dont know what hurts more.

But Backs and necks can be totally debilitating.
Knees seem to be associated with the sports that
require running. But bad backs... I dont imagine
you can even turn on the ball.

Have to refer to Kev who has probably had both
knees and back. I know he had neck problems.

Rocco has had horrible back problems.

[herkhorse]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Rocco is a top notch sportsman.

A class act, both yesterday and today. No doubt gained more than a few fans this week.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by pgardn

I personally dont know what hurts more.

But Backs and necks can be totally debilitating.
Knees seem to be associated with the sports that
require running. But bad backs... I dont imagine
you can even turn on the ball.

Have to refer to Kev who has probably had both
knees and back. I know he had neck problems.

Rocco has had horrible back problems.

Had my few shares of injuries....3 fractures in my neck, back surgery, sciatica, a hip out of joint. I used play 15 times a month, but I went from Nov. 2004 to June of 2007 where I didn't play 10-15 times in that 2.5+ years. Needless to say, wasn't a very enjoyable time frame in my life.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by GPK

Had my few shares of injuries....3 fractures in my neck, back surgery, sciatica, a hip out of joint. I used play 15 times a month, but I went from Nov. 2004 to June of 2007 where I didn't play 10-15 times in that 2.5+ years. Needless to say, wasn't a very enjoyable time frame in my life.

Start adding up the points since you know where everyone finished and see who won this shindig, since you are a resident golfpro.....