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Old 04-21-2014, 03:01 PM
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Shaun Bridgmohan gets call on Commanding Curve.
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Old 04-21-2014, 04:30 PM
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Shaun Bridgmohan gets call on Commanding Curve.
the first horse to sneak in that I think will need to be a must use
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Old 04-22-2014, 11:44 AM
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Pablo is getting close......
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this horse can be dangerous...i dont think he gets in though
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there's always hope Frodo
Isnt Pablo like one of the few originals from the first Derby Future Pool?
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Old 04-22-2014, 11:52 AM
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Isnt Pablo like one of the few originals from the first Derby Future Pool?
Yes.
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Old 04-22-2014, 12:02 PM
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I so want PDM to get in...
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Old 04-22-2014, 12:43 PM
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Yes.
Thanks Steve...I should have inserted " possible" into my question..
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Old 04-22-2014, 12:58 PM
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Isnt Pablo like one of the few originals from the first Derby Future Pool?
ROC is an original....Pablo also an original took in interesting path having fallen completely off the map from November to April
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Old 04-22-2014, 12:30 PM
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I was trying to look at the horses with races/wins over the Churchill track out of the top 20+ points ranked horses. Obviously the West Coasters aren't as likely to've even run there, but anyway, I was curious. Accidentally deleted some of what I put together so I might've left something off, but is this basically it? (Chitu of course would technically move in there if he goes in the Derby Trial and isn't officially out of the Derby.)

Ride On Curlin - CD stakes placed; G3 4th
Tapiture - CD G2W KY Jockey Club
Ring Weekend - CD maiden placing
Harry's Holiday - CD maiden winner
Commanding Curve - CD maiden winner
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Old 04-22-2014, 01:12 PM
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Steve, are you coming to L'ville? is there anyone here that can tell me how the workouts are going/looking or is there a website that has the videos? The reason i ask is that i have found it to be helpful in looking and choosing horses for both races. I know it didn't take a genius to find barbaro and street sense but i was impressed with the way both horses worked before the race along with the way that animal kingdom ran on track. I know that the track will change come race day but its just something that i like to do/watch. Anyone with any info would be awesome. thanks.
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Old 04-22-2014, 01:28 PM
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Steve, are you coming to L'ville? is there anyone here that can tell me how the workouts are going/looking or is there a website that has the videos? The reason i ask is that i have found it to be helpful in looking and choosing horses for both races. I know it didn't take a genius to find barbaro and street sense but i was impressed with the way both horses worked before the race along with the way that animal kingdom ran on track. I know that the track will change come race day but its just something that i like to do/watch. Anyone with any info would be awesome. thanks.
I think they were on Churchill's website last year. Racing form's Mike Welsch always discusses them also, but not sure whether that is still free or not or has become part of DRF+ which they charge for. Looks like Steve has him on ATR today.
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Old 04-23-2014, 05:15 AM
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Steve, are you coming to L'ville? is there anyone here that can tell me how the workouts are going/looking or is there a website that has the videos? The reason i ask is that i have found it to be helpful in looking and choosing horses for both races. I know it didn't take a genius to find barbaro and street sense but i was impressed with the way both horses worked before the race along with the way that animal kingdom ran on track. I know that the track will change come race day but its just something that i like to do/watch. Anyone with any info would be awesome. thanks.
Yes.. Have been here since Saturday.

Start by using @DerbyMedia on twitter as Darren Rogers sends links to everything you want: https://twitter.com/DerbyMedia

Here is direct link to feed for Derby-Oaks workout feed 8:30-8:50 daily: http://www.kentuckyderby.com/workouts/live

HRTV will start their work coverage from CD Thursday with anaysis from Gary Young, Rich Migliore, Caton Bredar and Co. Pursuit of the Crown is the show you want from them: http://www.hrtv.com/pursuit-of-the-crown-2014/

Mike Welsch's Clocker Reports at DRF of course.

ATR is M-F from Churchill 10a-1p and as always, Welsch, Mig & Young will all provide their insights daily on how horses are looking in works and gallops.

ATR Stream (24/7 loop and live show): http://www.clearstreaming.com/radios...sandbeyond.asx
ATR Archive: http://www.thoroughbredracingradione...ents&Itemid=35

4/21: http://www.thoroughbredracingradione...y=21&Itemid=35
4/22: http://www.thoroughbredracingradione...y=22&Itemid=35
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Old 04-22-2014, 10:44 PM
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not sure but didn't cal chrome run the 1-1/8 about 2 seconds faster than any other horse in the derby?...while being geared down..
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Old 04-23-2014, 01:20 AM
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not sure but didn't cal chrome run the 1-1/8 about 2 seconds faster than any other horse in the derby?...while being geared down..
What's the point of comparing raw times? Every track plays differently.
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Old 04-23-2014, 08:35 AM
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What's the point of comparing raw times? Every track plays differently.


just a 2 second observation....with 20 horses one bump, bad trip, or getting post #1, etc... could throw it all out the window.
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Old 04-23-2014, 11:12 AM
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What's the point of comparing raw times? Every track plays differently.
I saw someone post raw times on another forum and by doing the calculations they would have had cali chrome beating ring weekend by 50 lengths...lol raw times
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Old 04-23-2014, 12:17 PM
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I saw someone post raw times on another forum and by doing the calculations they would have had cali chrome beating ring weekend by 50 lengths...lol raw times
yes...ha ha ha...cal chrome will never win this race. I'm betting on the other 19 to win, place and show. ha ha ha!!!
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Old 04-23-2014, 03:39 PM
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Baffert unable to convince Susan Chu to pass Derby, so Chitu will SCR from Trial and run adding significantly to the already racey pace.

Not the news the Dallas Stewart & Commanding Curve wanted to hear..
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I saw someone post raw times on another forum and by doing the calculations they would have had cali chrome beating ring weekend by 50 lengths...lol raw times
so how did that horse California Chrome do in the derby?
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Old 05-05-2014, 01:42 PM
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Commanding Curve is out and heading to the Belmont instead.
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Old 05-06-2014, 07:39 AM
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5/10/14 Peter Pan 1 1/8M - BEL:

1 1/8 Miles | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $200,000

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