Less choice coming for New York City

[joeydb]

In typical liberal Democratic fashion, "we know what's best for you..."

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/05/...ver-16-ounces/

Of course, they overlook the obvious yet again. The guy who was going to buy a 24 oz drink will now simply just buy two 16 oz. drinks, either simultaneously or when he again grows thirsty. The actual consumption may increase, as will those horrible paper products that are destroying mother Earth...

[Danzig]

absolutely ridiculous.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Danzig

absolutely ridiculous.

Ridiculous that New York is doing this or because Joey is making this a Liberal v Conservative issue?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by jms62

Ridiculous that New York is doing this or because Joey is making this a Liberal v Conservative issue?

my first answer was bloombergs idea. but then i went back and re-read joey's post...so in reality, both!

[MaTH716]

I think it's NYRA's fault people are fat..............................

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by jms62

Ridiculous that New York is doing this or because Joey is making this a Liberal v Conservative issue?

OK - how many conservatives are telling you how much soda you are not allowed to have?

Ironically, if you're on welfare, the conservatives are paying for the soda and everything else...

[Riot]

Originally Posted by joeydb

OK - how many conservatives are telling you how much soda you are not allowed to have?

Most conservatives seem to stick to much more destructive issues, like trying to pass laws telling other people if they can or cannot use birth control, what doctors and patients must discuss, and controlling womens vaginas and uteruses.

Oh, yeah - and trying to tell people who their sexual partners can and cannot be, and what sex acts are legal and not. Oh: and what religion one can practice freely in this country.

And the "welfare queen" catch phrase invented out of blue sky by Ronald Reagan was proven false when he said it, and 1990's welfare reform eliminated the possibility.

Please - never, ever try to make the proven false, "liberals use government to control you" argument, when we have 60 years of conservatives doing it or trying to do much, much worse: aggressively trying to take away other American's personal liberty and freedom.

There is one party whose purpose, if they are elected this fall, is to immediately privatize for profit every penny they can ooze out of what's left (education, health care, retirement), give massive tax breaks to the wealthiest, and end any remaining middle class in this country by stealing every last penny they can.

Wages (earning power) for those earning less than $250,000 a year haven't changed in my lifetime. The ruling class have been very successful, and are going in for the kill to make this country a complete plutocracy.

They use hot button social issues to get your vote and enable their doing that, while pointing at those who oppose them and scream they are stealing your tax dollars to distract you - while they have a hand in your pocket privatizing and taking every last thing this country does for it's citizens. You and your class have gotten nothing from them over the past 60 years - you've only lost wages, and retirement income, and social safety nets. And you're insistent upon handing over your last freedoms and dimes to them.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by joeydb

OK - how many conservatives are telling you how much soda you are not allowed to have?
Ironically, if you're on welfare, the conservatives are paying for the soda and everything else...

conservatives also inject themselves into health and privacy, but nice try. maybe not soda, maybe it's birth control.

[brianwspencer]

Interesting that when it comes to soda, all of the sudden "choice" is something that matters to you.

Cool.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by joeydb

OK - how many conservatives are telling you how much soda you are not allowed to have?

Ironically, if you're on welfare, the conservatives are paying for the soda and everything else...

Technically, the proposed law doesn't limit how much soda an individual can drink; it limits the sizes certain companies can sell. There's nothing to stop an individual from buying two 16-oz sodas if that's what he wants to do. Or five, or ten, or twenty.

So the restriction is on companies, not actual individuals. Corporations spend a lot of money researching how to get people to consume more; the massive increase in portion size is evidence of how successful they are. I imagine Bloomberg is figuring the psychology behind how we purchase works both ways.

I'm old enough I can remember when McDonalds didn't serve their fries in boxes.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Technically, the proposed law doesn't limit how much soda an individual can drink; it limits the sizes certain companies can sell. There's nothing to stop an individual from buying two 16-oz sodas if that's what he wants to do. Or five, or ten, or twenty.

So the restriction is on companies, not actual individuals. Corporations spend a lot of money researching how to get people to consume more; the massive increase in portion size is evidence of how successful they are. I imagine Bloomberg is figuring the psychology behind how we purchase works both ways.

I'm old enough I can remember when McDonalds didn't serve their fries in boxes.

OK - good point - but equally technical is the fact that the law seeks to make it less convenient to consume the same amount.

Maybe next Bloomberg should outlaw the 16 oz pint of beer and the 12 oz bottle, preferring instead that going to the bar for a beer with the guys means ordering 12 one ounce shot glasses of beer...

[Danzig]

i'd rather they just had companies put the actual dietary info of the size you're buying on the label.
who here knows that 20oz soda bottles are considered 2 1/2 servings in a container?
that cinnamon roll in the vending machine? two servings. so is the microwave bowl of chunky soup-yeah, cause i share that big ol' bowl of soup with someone...it's too much to eat by myself.

10 years ago on a random internet forum...

"Pfft. Agenda 21 isn't implemented. Take the tin foil hat off! 9-11 never forget!"

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by joeydb

In typical liberal Democratic fashion, "we know what's best for you..."

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/05/...ver-16-ounces/

Of course, they overlook the obvious yet again. The guy who was going to buy a 24 oz drink will now simply just buy two 16 oz. drinks, either simultaneously or when he again grows thirsty. The actual consumption may increase, as will those horrible paper products that are destroying mother Earth...

Err, Mr. Joey, sir? Please look up which party tickets Bloomie ran on in his three Mayoral campaigns. Because you clearly don't know much about Hizzoner.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Err, Mr. Joey, sir? Please look up which party tickets Bloomie ran on in his three Mayoral campaigns. Because you clearly don't know much about Hizzoner.

True - I know he was a Republican. But his liberal tilt makes it easy for me to forget. Another RINO.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by joeydb

True - I know he was a Republican. But his liberal tilt makes it easy for me to forget. Another RINO.

Ronald Reagan would be a flaming liberal in todays Republican party.