Rags to Riches/Belmont try?

[ateamstupid]

The question still hasn't been answered of where a better spot to try colts would be.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by philcski

Wow, this group did a lot of running.
I tried too hard to beat a layup winner. Figured SOMEONE interesting would do some running, but it wasn't meant to be.

She ran great, and galloped out strong. Had nice seats at the clubhouse turn and she hardly looked winded.

You stated a real horse race was the reason you did not like her, exactly what are the other filly races that where real horse races compared to the santa anita oaks, i just dont see it in this division this year.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

I don't know, you'd have to ask her! Seriously though, I think SBD was a good example of a filly that many thought was better than the colts (Charismatic was not that highly regarded going into the Derby) so her 7th place finish is an example of a top filly going against colts. I agree the breeding is different (SBD vs Rags), but the Belmont has a history of favoring speed types.

I know what you are saying but it would make a great storyline if SS loses the Preakness or even if he wins, it adds to the intrigue.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

The question still hasn't been answered of where a better spot to try colts would be.

Ohio Derby

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Ohio Derby

No way.. Birdbirdistheword might show up there.

[horseofcourse]

All I know is if Street Sense beats Hard Spun in the Preakness in a very close race, and both of those show up in the Belmont with Rags to Riches that would be one of the greatest shows horse racing has ever put on.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Breeding wise it is hard to imagine Silverbulletday was better suited to the Belmont than Rags to Riches.

Silverbulletday, while an extremely nice filly, beat up on a lot of subpar fillies in the spring of '99. In the Belmont that year there was a pretty decent cast of characters, including Charismatic bidding for the Triple Crown. That was a fast running of the race and clearly Silverbulletday wanted no part of 1 1/2 miles.

NT

Silverbulletday was bred to get a distance though...Silver Deputy out of Rokeby Rose, she the daughter of Tom Rolfe (C,P) and he the son of Ribot (C,P), SBD's DP=6-1-9-0-6, DI=1.10, CD=0.05, that screams distance/stamina!

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

No way.. Birdbirdistheword might show up there.

I have no doubt that Birdbird could have kicked Cowtown cats ass in the Derby!!

[philcski]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

You stated a real horse race was the reason you did not like her, exactly what are the other filly races that where real horse races compared to the santa anita oaks, i just dont see it in this division this year.

That was the point of busting my own balls. The 3YO fillies are horrifically bad this year...

but a great one runs next Friday

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Silverbulletday was bred to get a distance though...Silver Deputy out of Rokeby Rose, she the daughter of Tom Rolfe (C,P) and he the son of Ribot (C,P), SBD's DP=6-1-9-0-6, DI=1.10, CD=0.05, that screams distance/stamina!

Silver Deputy is not a 1 1/2 sire
awd of 17 crops 6.82 furlongs

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Silver Deputy is not a 1 1/2 sire
awd of 17 crops 6.82 furlongs

I was just going to point this out....

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by paisjpq

I was just going to point this out....

you are slipping....

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Silver Deputy is not a 1 1/2 sire
awd of 17 crops 6.82 furlongs

I agree with that, but again...I'm one who believes that a horse gets stamina MAINLY through the dam...and that dam side is pretty solid...when was the last time you saw a top horse with six points in Professional catagory?

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

you are slipping....

piss off... I'm sick

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Silver Deputy is not a 1 1/2 sire
awd of 17 crops 6.82 furlongs

Roman has Silver Deputy's AWD at 7.85....

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Roman has Silver Deputy's AWD at 7.85....

that's (I believe) the average MAX winning distance...while the number chck gave is his overall ave. winning distance.

[witchdoctor]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Do you think her leg broke because she was racing against a colt?

No.
My point was these horses are not machines and there can be alot to lose.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by witchdoctor

No.
My point was these horses are not machines and there can be alot to lose.

And the risk of her breaking down is greater against boys than against fillies?

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by Bababooyee

Genuine Risk is one of my all-time favorite horses (and folks here ), and I would really love to see R2R take on the boys in the Belmont. Maybe I am just a sucker for a good underdog type of story...

I'm with you. As bad as I want to see a Triple Crown winner while my knees are still young enough to take all the jumping up and down I'd be doing, it would be really cool to see a filly take the Belmont.

[Scurlogue Champ]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Who are you to call me names? I'm pointing out the facts and I'm every bit as much entitled to state my opinion as you or anyone else...I never called Pletcher "dumb", you don't win as many races as he has and be dumb, I merely stated my damn opinion and asked if maybe he's getting despirate for a classic win. I presented historical facts and even the PF's which indicate why he IS considering the race! Just cause I don't agree with your point of view, you call me a wuss...back at you, wimp!

You aren't really entitled to your opinion here Somer....

Possibly slander here!!!!