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You should be training them out of the goodness of our heart in exchange for a lotta grief and aggravation and an occasional free meal at Sergios. What the hell is the matter with you!!!??? Don't you know that? |
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YOu got that figured into the equation? Unless you are talking about a place where that never happens. Its called Fantasyland downs. |
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You figure that in as well? Or maybe the guys who dont like to pay high vet bills so you do one out of your own pocket to win a race. You get that? |
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I don't understand why trainers are so sensitive about this subject. They are always crying poverty, yet they have nice houses and drive nice cars. If a trainer(in Southern California) has 40 horses and he is taking a salary of $130,000 a year, I'm not going to feel sorry for him if he's losing $10,000 a year on day money after all the salaries are paid including his own. That means he's still making $120,000 a year and that does not include what he makes on purses. |
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Richi if you reread my post that started this, which you responded to, you'd see thats exactly WHAT I WAS SAYING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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You are implying that trainers who drive nice cars and live in nice houses are all making big bucks and crying poverty. That is complete BS. That attitude is why so many owners are so bad when it comes to paying bills. They see it as a luxury for a trainer as opposed to what it really is. |
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With regard to your question about how many trainers in Southern California have over 40 horses, I think there are a lot. I would say that there are at least 25-30 trainers that have 40 horses or more. And there are probably only about 80-100 trainers here altogether I would guess. Last edited by Rupert Pupkin : 12-05-2006 at 04:28 PM. |
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![]() i saw this one trainer walkin around with a huge piece of bling platinum chain in the shape of a slice of pie..it must have cost 150k....not...trainers should get all they can its no picknick dealing with a bunch of workers and the aniimals themselves..then add the owners in the mix ,,,oh man excedrin city..my hats off to anyone that can do it.....
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I am quoting myself here to clarify something. The paragraph I have bolded and that starts out "Here is what he told me" IS NOT MY WORDS. I cut/pasted this from another poster so that I could answer the questions and I forgot to remove it. I apologize as those are not my words and I do not believe them to be true. Thank you! And I will be removing the paragraph from my post. I say this because someone else already quoted me and it was a mistake. Eric |
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Man i feel sorry for some of em i know. Up every ****ing day at 4:30. No days off, none. Deal with problems with horses and employees, owners, etc. To represent what a luxurious like they live is nuts. Then you get owners who stiff em out on bills(that never happens right Canon Shell?) who keep right on claiming horses each day that cost more than what they owe the trainer whos gotta fill out the claim slip!!!!!!! Amazing more of em aren't completely insane. |
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I have a trainer at Penn National -- a high %, leading trainer. The guy shoots very good. He charges $45 a day. So your theory of "he'd probably me making $6 a day per horse" is, a) completly hypothetical and nothing more than a guess, and b) flawed because the $55 per day is not realistic. He couldn't possibly make the same amount of money you claim he is making (in your purely hypothetical claim) at $45 a day as he would be making at $55 a day. The economics make no sense. I think most trainers don't make money on their daily rate and if there is a salary built into the equation, there is not enough room to make a so called "living" exclusively on the daily rate. At best it might pay for some personal expenses. I know too many trainers who aren't "making a living" off of just training horses. I think the money is in the portion of the 10% they get to net or keep, the bonus or commission, if you want to call it that, on a big horse being sold, and other variables. There are economies of scale that most trainers cannot take advantage of unless and until they get their operation to a point of scale where they can make money. I have heard of trainers making money on the daily rate by potentiallycutting corners on help, doing the work of a man/woman themselves, cutting corners on feed, equiptment, or cutting corners some other way. We have a trainer here telling us the real and accurate situation. I see no reason not to believe that other than to perpetuate some massive facade. Eric |
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Are you saying that most trainers don't take a salary? Cannon Shell told you that they take a salary. If they didn't take a salary, they couldn't survive. What do you think the average trainer's horses make in a year? Maybe $250,000? If they didn't take salary, that would mean that the avegra trainer was making less than $25,000 a year. Last edited by Rupert Pupkin : 12-05-2006 at 07:03 PM. |
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Instead of accusing people of lying, why don't you call the CHRB and ask them if and how they make sure that a suspended trainer is not still collecting money while he's on suspension. Last edited by Rupert Pupkin : 12-05-2006 at 07:01 PM. |
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