"What I Will Do If ObamaCare Passes"

[Riot]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

It is amazing to me that you feel that some type of govt intrusion is welcome and justified in everyday Americans lives.

What "government intrusion"? I like some consumer protections. I like it in my food, in my medicines, and now in my healthcare. I like my government passing laws that stop the insurance companies from their current practices of raping consumers.

There are no "death panels". There is no "government takeover of health care".

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Riot

What "government intrusion"? I like some consumer protections. I like it in my food, in my medicines, and now in my healthcare. I like my government passing laws that stop the insurance companies from their current practices of raping consumers.

There are no "death panels". There is no "government takeover of health care".

Say that 500 times and you might believe it! Have you seen the latest FDA advisory on Avandia,Plavix...and the massive recall of foodstuffs and grocery items?
It's a shame you waste your energies on propagating this drivel

[miraja2]

I only wish that the bill actually revolutionized health care in this country as much as its conservative opponents seem to think it does. You guys seem to be arguing against pure single-payer or the Clinton Plan of '93.
This bill (unfortunately) isn't either of those things.

This talk about Great Britain, etc., is a waste of time. If this bill passes, do you know what country's health care system the U.S. will most look like in ten years? The U.S. right now.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Say that 500 times and you might believe it! Have you seen the latest FDA advisory on Avandia,Plavix...and the massive recall of foodstuffs and grocery items?
It's a shame you waste your energies on propagating this drivel

Um ... speaking of drivel ... what agencies are those you are quoting protecting you, causing those recalls that protect you?

Believe me - the only reason drug companies even do minimal clinical trials, or have their lying and coverups exposed, is because your government - those agencies you say do nothing - forces them to light.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by miraja2

I only wish that the bill actually revolutionized health care in this country as much as its conservative opponents seem to think it does. You guys seem to be arguing against pure single-payer or the Clinton Plan of '93.

Seems true Start here, move forward. Let's see the up and down vote on Grayson's Medicare buy in at cost bill.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Riot

Um ... speaking of drivel ... what agencies are those you are quoting protecting you, causing those recalls that protect you?

As the old saying goes...." a day late, and a dollar short" I don't call what the FDA protection...I call it CYA...or justification for existence!

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

As the old saying goes...." a day late, and a dollar short" I don't call what the FDA protection...I call it CYA...or justification for existence!

So you want to eliminate the CPSC and the FDA?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

As the old saying goes...." a day late, and a dollar short" I don't call what the FDA protection...I call it CYA...or justification for existence!

What nonsense. If it were not for the FDA, drug companies could sell anything, claim anything, kill thousands of people, and nobody could make them do squat about it.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by GBBob

So you want to eliminate the CPSC and the FDA?

That would be nice, because I could immediately start manufacturing cholesterol-lowering drugs in my basement, and make a fortune !

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by GBBob

So you want to eliminate the CPSC and the FDA?

Great knee-jerk reaction for both of you! I don't know what the CPSC is or what it does. Elimination is out of the question,obviously....but I don't feel they have their priorities in order, as a rule.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Great knee-jerk reaction for both of you! I don't know what the CPSC is or what it does. Elimination is out of the question,obviously....but I don't feel they have their priorities in order, as a rule.

You don't know what it is or what it does....but you do know that they don't have their priorities in order.

I assume you realize that makes no sense.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Riot

That would be nice, because I could immediately start manufacturing cholesterol-lowering drugs in my basement, and make a fortune !

And I will be making lead paint to paint the hand made toys that I will be manufacturing out of phalates. And they will have lots of small parts that easily fall off

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by miraja2

You don't know what it is or what it does....but you do know that they don't have their priorities in order.

I assume you realize that makes no sense.

I wasn't talking to you, and I was speaking about the FDA. If you want to do something useful, tell me how to BOLD the text like you've done. THAT would be helpful

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

I wasn't talking to you, and I was speaking about the FDA. If you want to do something useful, tell me how to BOLD the text like you've done. THAT would be helpful

When you quote someone....highlight the portion of the text you want to make bold and then select the "bold" option (which is B).

Directly above the quote you will see three options:
B I U

B = Bold
I= Italicize
U = Underline

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

I wasn't talking to you, and I was speaking about the FDA. If you want to do something useful, tell me how to BOLD the text like you've done. THAT would be helpful

Tim..did you play the guy in the movie Up whose house floated away?

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by GBBob

Tim..did you play the guy in the movie Up whose house floated away?

Can you send me $20 for a movie ticket and popcorn?......I'll let you know...there could be some misrepresentation going on

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by miraja2

When you quote someone....highlight the portion of the text you want to make bold and then select the "bold" option (which is B).

Directly above the quote you will see three options:
B I U

B = Bold
I= Italicize
U = Underline

Thanks for the info! I can usually put up with most of the Libs posts, and I don't disagree with someones' complete post......but I have a NEW toy...so beware

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by miraja2

I only wish that the bill actually revolutionized health care in this country as much as its conservative opponents seem to think it does. You guys seem to be arguing against pure single-payer or the Clinton Plan of '93.
This bill (unfortunately) isn't either of those things.

This talk about Great Britain, etc., is a waste of time. If this bill passes, do you know what country's health care system the U.S. will most look like in ten years? The U.S. right now.

the only reason that this might be true is if Republicans are able to kill it off or neuter it before things get too far out of hand. if they're not able to though, I guarantee that 10 years from now you won't have any trouble noticing how things have changed.

[AeWingnut]

Originally Posted by Riot

That's right, "they" are out to get you! Look out! Be scared!

this isn't about healthcare

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by AeWingnut

this isn't about healthcare

LOL!