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The real horses of the year (1986-2020) Manila, Java Gold, Alysheba, Sunday Silence, Go for Wand, In Excess, Paseana, Kotashaan, Holy Bull, Cigar, Alphabet Soup, Formal Gold, Skip Away, Artax, Tiznow, Point Given, Azeri, Candy Ride, Smarty Jones, Ghostzapper, Invasor, Curlin, Zenyatta, Zenyatta, Goldikova, Havre de Grace, Wise Dan, Wise Dan, California Chrome, American Pharoah, Arrogate, Gun Runner, Accelerate, Maximum Security, Gamine |
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![]() if i were pitt or uconn , i would rather play UNC in the final 4 then have to play each other again
don't think we see a piit/uconn big east final , 1 will lose i think either team handles a UNC team that doesn't like to play defense |
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![]() Almost impossible to imagine any of Pitt, UConn, and NC as anything but a 1 seed. Oklahoma was in that same position before losing to Texas, Kansas, and Missouri in their last four. If Louisville wins the Big East tourney it would make a compelling case for the Big East getting three number 1s. If Michigan State wins their tourney they'd be likely to get the fourth spot. Oklahoma still has a chance if they can win their conference tourney. If all of them fail then it will probably wind up with Memphis by default, a team whose only wins over tourney teams would be Gonzaga and Tennessee who could be 6 and 8 seeds.
Florida-Kentucky and Minnesota-Michigan loom as a couple elimination games this week. Penn St can stamp their ticket with a win tonight against Illinois. Lose and they could be in big trouble. USC must sweep the Oregon schools at home to have a shot. Maryland needs to take care of business at Virginia and they'll probably get in. Texas A&M and Providence are both on the right side of the bubble right now but could assure themselves a spot with a big time win in their finales against Missou and at Villanova. Ohio St needs to get by Northwestern to feel good about their chances. I know everyone has UNLV in for some reason but if they can't win a tough game at San Diego State to get to 10-6 in conference they shouldn't even be in consideration. Assuming they lose how could you put them in at 9-7 in a conference that New Mexico is 12-4 and San Diego St 11-5 in? Should be an interesting couple days, especially after all the bubble wackiness the past two nights. |
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don't think memphis beat much last year either during the regualr season and got a #1 |
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I also disagree that Maryland just has to beat Virginia. They really blew a chance to cement a bid against Wake, and now they're only 3-8 against the RPI 1-50. I think they need to beat Virginia and win two games in the ACC Tournament to be seriously considered. |
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The committee loves the ACC, 7-9 will get you in sometimes. At 8-8 they'll be the 7 seed and just need to beat NC St in the play-in round before losing to Duke or Wake in the quarters. |
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The real horses of the year (1986-2020) Manila, Java Gold, Alysheba, Sunday Silence, Go for Wand, In Excess, Paseana, Kotashaan, Holy Bull, Cigar, Alphabet Soup, Formal Gold, Skip Away, Artax, Tiznow, Point Given, Azeri, Candy Ride, Smarty Jones, Ghostzapper, Invasor, Curlin, Zenyatta, Zenyatta, Goldikova, Havre de Grace, Wise Dan, Wise Dan, California Chrome, American Pharoah, Arrogate, Gun Runner, Accelerate, Maximum Security, Gamine |
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Oklahoma would have 4 losses, 1 to a 2/3 seed, 1 to a 3/4 seed, 1 to a 8-10 seed, and 1 to a 2-14 team in the SEC. Memphis would have 3 losses, 2 to 5-7 seeds, and 1 to a 7-11 team in the Big East. Pitt not only wins on quality of wins but their 5 losses would be far better than Oklahoma's 4 losses or Memphis' 3. They'd also be ahead of both in RPI. |
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![]() I couldn't see a team that wouldn't be ranked in the top eight getting a #1 seed no matter how much quality was in their losses. They are at #3 now and if they lose Saturday and again in the Big East tourney while those other teams win out, no way are the Panthers getting a #1 even though I agree with you that their losses are better and they are a better team than either Kansas, Oklahoma, Memphis, and Michigan St.
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The real horses of the year (1986-2020) Manila, Java Gold, Alysheba, Sunday Silence, Go for Wand, In Excess, Paseana, Kotashaan, Holy Bull, Cigar, Alphabet Soup, Formal Gold, Skip Away, Artax, Tiznow, Point Given, Azeri, Candy Ride, Smarty Jones, Ghostzapper, Invasor, Curlin, Zenyatta, Zenyatta, Goldikova, Havre de Grace, Wise Dan, Wise Dan, California Chrome, American Pharoah, Arrogate, Gun Runner, Accelerate, Maximum Security, Gamine |
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![]() So Pitt would be lower ranked than all of them, would be without a conference title and Oklahoma, Memphis, and Michigan State would all have conference titles and Pitt would get a #1? Do you really believe that? We aren't talking about which teams are better here.
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The real horses of the year (1986-2020) Manila, Java Gold, Alysheba, Sunday Silence, Go for Wand, In Excess, Paseana, Kotashaan, Holy Bull, Cigar, Alphabet Soup, Formal Gold, Skip Away, Artax, Tiznow, Point Given, Azeri, Candy Ride, Smarty Jones, Ghostzapper, Invasor, Curlin, Zenyatta, Zenyatta, Goldikova, Havre de Grace, Wise Dan, Wise Dan, California Chrome, American Pharoah, Arrogate, Gun Runner, Accelerate, Maximum Security, Gamine |
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![]() I wouldn't discount Minnesota if they lose to Michigan. I think Michigan is considered more of a quality opponent. They did beat Duke, Purdue, UCLA on the road, and gave UConn a rough time.
(They only played Mich. St. once this season. That's weird)
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The real horses of the year (1986-2020) Manila, Java Gold, Alysheba, Sunday Silence, Go for Wand, In Excess, Paseana, Kotashaan, Holy Bull, Cigar, Alphabet Soup, Formal Gold, Skip Away, Artax, Tiznow, Point Given, Azeri, Candy Ride, Smarty Jones, Ghostzapper, Invasor, Curlin, Zenyatta, Zenyatta, Goldikova, Havre de Grace, Wise Dan, Wise Dan, California Chrome, American Pharoah, Arrogate, Gun Runner, Accelerate, Maximum Security, Gamine |
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![]() One thing Oklahoma does have working in their favor is that the B12 got smart and moved their tournament final to Saturday. When you have a final late Sunday the committee is largely settled on the bracket and won't make major changes. Waiting until 4 PM to see if you are going to move Oklahoma up to the one line isn't plausible with the amount of work that then needs to go into restructuring the rest of the bracket to avoid first or second rematches.
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