Watching race replays

[2Hot4TV]

Back to the original subject of watching replays,,,,,

Belmont 5/24 5th race "Cant Buy Love", if you watch this horse on the grass are we seeing a horse that doesn't like the footing?

Is he a bet back on the dirt?

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV

Back to the original subject of watching replays,,,,,

Belmont 5/24 5th race "Cant Buy Love", if you watch this horse on the grass are we seeing a horse that doesn't like the footing?

Is he a bet back on the dirt?

Is that a trick question?

Would you bet on a track and field sprinter, specializing in the 100 meter dash, in a 200M race?

Just when Campo had all the handicappers up in arms about all the turf sprints, AS IN 6F, he was carding at BEL (and 5.5F at SAR),

he now gives a new twist; just about the most impossible race to handicap: 7F on the BEL turf. Too long for sprinters, especially those not accustomed to the long turn and stretch run, and, more often than not, too short for 2 turners.

[Bobby Fischer]

Improve your understanding of the actual sport

that is the foundation for getting a lot out of replays.

[2Hot4TV]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Is that a trick question?

Would you bet on a track and field sprinter, specializing in the 100 meter dash, in a 200M race?

Just when Campo had all the handicappers up in arms about all the turf sprints, AS IN 6F, he was carding at BEL (and 5.5F at SAR),

he now gives a new twist; just about the most impossible race to handicap: 7F on the BEL turf. Too long for sprinters, especially those not accustomed to the long turn and stretch run, and, more often than not, too short for 2 turners.

Not a trick ? I just think the horse wasn't getting a hold of the turf. The whole race he never seem to have a comfortable stride. Looked much better on dirt.

Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer

Improve your understanding of the actual sport

that is the foundation for getting a lot out of replays.

You should make fortune cookies. This stuff is priceless.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV

Not a trick ? I just think the horse wasn't getting a hold of the turf. The whole race he never seem to have a comfortable stride. Looked much better on dirt.

Ummmmmmmmm

Let me take another stab: you're Fischer under another handle?

[Bobby Fischer]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

You should make fortune cookies. This stuff is priceless.

Coach, I got a funny fortune cookie today - "HELP I'M TRAPPED IN A CHINESE BAKERY" - I didn't know what to make of it, but the general tsoa w/ extra hot sauc3 was on point.


watching race replays isn't just looking for "trips" and then shuffling back to your speed figure. Maybe you know this, I honestly don't have a feel for you, other than a pretty sharp sense of humor.

A lot of general horseplayers are like a Stats Geek in baseball who knows all the On base% and Slugging% and goes through the box score, but he never really played sports or took a big interest in the Actual Sport of baseball.

Maybe he bets $$ on baseball. Maybe its in Rotissery or Fantasy...
But he doesn't notice when the pitcher really has to dig down in the glove to grip the splitter. He doesn't know if the pitcher will throw a 2-0 or 3-1 breaking ball.

He doesn't know the tracks - i mean "stadium" dimensions. He doesn't know if the batter hit the top or the bottom of the baseball for that weak ground out. He vaguely recollects something about a hit-and-run and isn't 100% sure about the slugger's intentions.


You look at a race replay and all you see is the Actual Sport of horseracing.

The more you learn about the basics, the stronger your visual interpretation will be.

[Bobby Fischer]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Ummmmmmmmm

Let me take another stab: you're Fischer under another handle?

fat man impersonation of the day



"Its like CYCLING

you had another GEAR

but JOHNNY V INNEXPLICABLY GOES WIDE!!!
ever heard of DRAFTING DOOFUS?

i thought this was actually going to be about CYCLING
and instead you get a typical SUCKUP trip where the third choice makes last run and gets fourth.
goood thing im not associated with P.A. or FISCHER
Keeneland is the best replay but i need an eltromagnet to see the BELMONT head-onz / I should save money like hollywood park's replay crew

trivial.

blalavhahjafjvbalsadjkfjasdfkjdjakldfljkasd .... "

[ELA]

Kind of surprised by some of the comments here. Anyway, I watch a tremendous amount of replays. Different people have different styles, and people's minds work differently. I watch races everyday, tracks all over the US. If it were harness racing, I think it would be easier -- week to week, # of races watched between starts, etc.

Obviously, replays do not help everyone. Trips? Yeah, OK, maybe -- under a very specific circumstance. Other aspects? Absolutely, again, same circumstance. Obviously, you have to know what you are looking at. I've heard hard-cores tell me that replays don't help them at all. Then they don't know what they are looking at. Great, don't watch replays.

If you learn what you are looking at replays can be extremely valuable. There are many aspects to the game that some people just don't take into consideration, have access to, been exposed to, etc.

Eric

[ELA]

Originally Posted by GPK

Am I the only one that struggles with this at times? How many times will you watch the same race? I find it difficult to closely watch more than 1 or 2 horses at a time. Sometimes I have to watch the replay multiple times and just concentrate on only one horse at a time to get a full understanding of their respective trip. Anyone else have the same problem? Any advice on how to better watch replays?

I don't know where you are watching them, but I would watch them from every angle I can (yes, seems obvious). I would also watch more than one replay. If you are looking at a specific horse, go back and watch many of his starts, take note if you are seeing something, a pattern, a characteristic, etc. I do this a lot -- betting, claiming, etc. (with claiming, I am putting up a lot more money on a race, LOL).

I watch replays several times, and sometimes it's neccessary. You easily miss things.

Eric

[ELA]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Cheating is a problem, no doubt, but leaning on it like a crutch to explain away your handicapping inefficiencies is a bigger crime. It's always easy to blame someone other than yourself for losing. However, doing so will not stem the tide of defeat.

Excellent point. I think this is a far greater occurence than many think -- owners, trainers, and bettors. Conversation for another time.

Eric