IEAH group

I know how TV tries to portray
trainers, owners, etc... in a provocative
or sympathetic way in order to generate
a story but...

That ABC TV shot of that IEAH group makes
we wanna gag. Bunch a suits with black
on the eyeball sunglasses with little
communication devices.

Mr. Anderson, Mr. Anderson.
You are now a part of our matrix.

Could someone at Churchill get drunken
sick and throw up some chunky, wet
humility on their Italian suits.

[Stall Mucker]

Oh my my my rancor, nonsense and drivel. But, I agree with you.

Originally Posted by pgardn

I know how TV tries to portray
trainers, owners, etc... in a provocative
or sympathetic way in order to generate
a story but...

That ABC TV shot of that IEAH group makes
we wanna gag. Bunch a suits with black
on the eyeball sunglasses with little
communication devices.

Mr. Anderson, Mr. Anderson.
You are now a part of our matrix.

Could someone at Churchill get drunken
sick and throw up some chunky, wet
humility on their Italian suits.

[sumitas]

They are an act for sure. Easy to root against. Not so easy to bet against unfortunately.

[Danzig]

not necessarily the owners i have a problem with.. altho you have to wonder why, with all the trainers, they chose the one they chose. what mindset comes to the conclusion that dutrow is the man to go to??
yeah, you guys may have a point.

[fpsoxfan]

Oh My..Who really gives a shiat.

[Danzig]

an excerpt from pat forde's article:


What the rest of the racing game saw was a trainer with a rap sheet longer than "Kent Desormeaux" win the Kentucky Derby. Dutrow has been fined and suspended dozens of times in his career, sometimes for drugging himself and sometimes for drugging his horses. He says he's gotten his personal life in better shape, but documents from the Association of Racing Commissioners International show that he's gotten in trouble every year this decade when it comes to medicating his horses.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by Danzig

not necessarily the owners i have a problem with.. altho you have to wonder why, with all the trainers, they chose the one they chose. what mindset comes to the conclusion that dutrow is the man to go to??
yeah, you guys may have a point.

Because they wanted to win.

I think a lot of people on these boards play the role by trying to act like they'd be above board with everything they do but I doubt that it would really be like that if they were involved. Once you get into the business side of a lot of things, the bottom line becomes more important than it is while you are just a fan. A lot of people hate him but I think that Jim Rome is pretty much hitting it on the head in sports when he says "if you aren't cheating, you aren't trying and it's only cheating if you get caught."

As for Dutrow, I like the guy. As BTW said, all he did before the race was tell people what he really felt. That was refreshing for me. I can't stand for trainers that have a horse that should be 1/5 or a coach of a team that's a 30-pt favorite to talk up the opponents like it's the toughest match he's ever going to have. Just be honest and say what you really feel. I can respect that. I'm not saying that Dutrow is the best guy in the world but I don't hold his past against him like some of you seem to do.

[10 pnt move up]

I assume the links with IEAH were common knowledge but in case it wasn't.

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/hor...ray&id=3380885

It's a nice story and all, but unfortunately for them it will be topped by Dee Tee Stables winning the Triple Crown a few years from now.

We will hit them with a proverbial
wall of wealth.

And Simon's special concoctions
that give miracle endurance.

[eajinabi]

I just hate it when people dislike succesful people.
What has IEAH done wrong for the industry??? nothing. Heck they could have retired Kip Deville after the BC but no they continue for a second title.

Just because they wear nice itallian suits and own the next possible triple crown winner doesn't mean they are bad people. The heads of that operation must have worked hard to earn the money for thier success. Do people just get money from heaven and start a succesful stable??

If you still dont like them then do us a favor and dont bet on them so others can cash in.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by eajinabi

I just hate it when people dislike succesful people.
What has IEAH done wrong for the industry??? nothing. Heck they could have retired Kip Deville after the BC but no they continue for a second title.

Just because they wear nice itallian suits and own the next possible triple crown winner doesn't mean they are bad people. The heads of that operation must have worked hard to earn the money for thier success. Do people just get money from heaven and start a succesful stable??

If you still dont like them then do us a favor and dont bet on them so others can cash in.

It's how you carry yourself...There are numerous "succesful" people in racing, yet people like Jim Tafel, the Lewises, etc can get it done without the arrogance that IEAH chooses to flaunt.

From a previous thread

I assume the links with IEAH were common knowledge but in case it wasn't.

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/hor...ray&id=3380885

[philcski]

Originally Posted by GBBob

It's how you carry yourself...There are numerous "succesful" people in racing, yet people like Jim Tafel, the Lewises, etc can get it done without the arrogance that IEAH chooses to flaunt.

From a previous thread

I assume the links with IEAH were common knowledge but in case it wasn't.

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/hor...ray&id=3380885

Was talking to Chuck about this today. When I worked in downtown Manhattan I would run to the John St. OTB at lunch to bet the early double every day. The place is full of degenerates and homeless people looking to warm up, with the occasional horseplaying trader wandering in. On this specific day, A One Rocket went off as the favorite, stepping up in class from $7.5K (which at the time was the ABSOLUTE BOTTOM LEVEL NYRA race, and any horse running there was talentless, crippled, or both) to $20K, which even on the inner can have some salty types. Despite these black marks, suit after suit came in to bet $500, $1000, $5000, including one woman who had no idea how to even make a win bet (she had to ask me for advice) yet got down for $3000ish. Of course, he aired, and the IEAH bunch there got an earful from me and several other of the legitimate horseplayers there. They knew the score with Martin, and chose to ignore it.

I've hated them ever since, despite my interest in Big Brown.

[Danzig]

interesting read. i miss ray paulick in the bloodhorse, always enjoyed his thought-provoking articles.

and yeah, dutrow...i posted part of an article elsewhere on here today about him. he's been in trouble every year for the last ten years or so...got a 60 day suspension, and then another 14 days plus a fine for breaking the rules of that suspension. what a group.

[eajinabi]

So you guys saying Big Brown must be juiced as well

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by eajinabi

So you guys saying Big Brown must be juiced as well

All I know is that I witnessed the "coming out party" of a special...I believe great...horse yesterday. He ran like the wind and the last time I was that impressed with a horse was Risen Star in the Belmont. I don't know any of his connections save Dutrow and frankly, I don't care...it's the horse I fell in love with...same as when you fall in love with a woman, do you really care how "nice" her family is? Regarding Dutrow...I respect and admire the man. He's made his share of mistakes for sure (last time I checked, so have I), but he faced great personal tragedy, his own demons...and has overcome them! I say...good for him!

[philcski]

Originally Posted by eajinabi

So you guys saying Big Brown must be juiced as well

Absolutely not inferring that by my story. The horse was a monster when they bought him, and Dutrow did a great job to be patient with him.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by eajinabi

So you guys saying Big Brown must be juiced as well

not necessarily. but can you really be sure?

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by Danzig

interesting read. i miss ray paulick in the bloodhorse, always enjoyed his thought-provoking articles.

and yeah, dutrow...i posted part of an article elsewhere on here today about him. he's been in trouble every year for the last ten years or so...got a 60 day suspension, and then another 14 days plus a fine for breaking the rules of that suspension. what a group.

To me he can actually write critical pieces on racing without having to worry about sponsors, its a good thing he left.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by eajinabi

I just hate it when people dislike succesful people.
Heck they could have retired Kip Deville after the BC but no they continue for a second title.

Kip Deville isn't retired?? Wow, what do you know. Dutrow's aggressive 3 race campaign planned this year, is pretty much equivalent to retirement for me.