Bush is now a liberal.

[Antitrust32]

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/07/...bby/index.html


this **** bothers me

clinton has the guts to say that when he also lied in court (w/ the monica thing - granted i didnt think a bj was that big of a deal, but a lie under oath is a lie under oath if ya ask me)

and the whole whitewater shiat - and the fact clinton pardoned everyone and their mother.

what a loser




now, i dont mind dumbocraps, i mean democrats. well actually i do mind, but i am not real fond of republicans in the past 4 years or so, but, if Hillary wins this gosh darn thing I'm outta here.

I would love to see a woman president, or any minority president, just no Hillary, please.

[Mortimer]

I would love to see a woman president, or any minority president, just no Hillary, please.
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Fucl<in' amazing.

[Mortimer]

I'm sorry...my words could have been chosen in a better way.


I should have said ...."Fucl<in' unreal."







Thanks in advance.

[Danzig]

Democratic presidential contender Hillary Rodham Clinton drew a distinction between President Bush's decision to commute the sentence of White House aide I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby — which she has harshly criticized — and her husband's 140 pardons in his closing hours in office.



both sides slay me. they each point the finger at the other--yet both sides engage in the same behavior. it's hysterical!

it was ok for clinton to pardon 140 people in the waning days/hours of his presidency, yet he bashes bush for commuting the prison portion of libbys sentence. not a pardon mind you....


this system is so flawed, no wonder there is constand gridlock in washington.

[GPK]

Lord Acton said it best.

"Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely."

The state of politics in this country is sad and sickening all at once.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by GPK

Lord Acton said it best.

"Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely."

The state of politics in this country is sad and sickening all at once.

it is.

many candidates run with the agenda of working for the people and doing their work. then they get up there and fall right into the system, with all its corrupt ways. you might have a legit piece of legislation, but by god if you don't vote for a fellows pork, guess where you're stuff is going?

ben franklin wanted our leaders to be unpaid, now wouldn't that be something? many of them get up there, and then just do what they can to stay in office a few years so they can get retirement. and that of course is full pay! it's ridiculous.

[byalip]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/07/...bby/index.html


this **** bothers me

.... the fact clinton pardoned everyone and their mother.

what a loser

I have a news flash for you....

Remember Mark Rich, the Clinton pardon that garnered the most boohooing from Republicans? I'm sure you do, because that's the name the Bush-Cheney supporters like to dredge up, like he was a greater danger to the human race than our POTUS.

Well, none other than SCOOTER LIBBY was Mark Rich's defense attorney.

Try and pin the "integrity badge" on Mr's. Libby, Cheney and The Decider after this revelation.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by byalip

I have a news flash for you....

Remember Mark Rich, the Clinton pardon that garnered the most boohooing from Republicans? I'm sure you do, because that's the name the Bush-Cheney supporters like to dredge up, like he was a greater danger to the human race than our POTUS.

Well, none other than SCOOTER LIBBY was Mark Rich's defense attorney.

Try and pin the "integrity badge" on Mr's. Libby, Cheney and The Decider after this revelation.

even the tyrant charles the first had a lawyer.

hell, that just goes to show they're all in it together, doesn't it?

[byalip]

Originally Posted by Danzig

even the tyrant charles the first had a lawyer.

hell, that just goes to show they're all in it together, doesn't it?

Noooo....I actually believe it exposes a level of hypocrisy.

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by Danzig

even the tyrant charles the first had a lawyer.

hell, that just goes to show they're all in it together, doesn't it?

Danzig,
I'm a bit confused. Did Clinton pardon anyone that was serving in his administration to protect either himself or his vice president?
My recollection is a bit hazy, and who was Charles the first's lawyer.
Emporer George's was named Alberto. He sure knew "law", but had serious memory lapses on other minor things.

[horseofcourse]

There is no conservative or liberal anymore in today's politicians. They are driven by huge money and special interest groups. The Democrats and Republicans in DC right now are the sickest group of people we have ever had running this country. All you can really do is vomit at the nonsense going on there.

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

There is no conservative or liberal anymore in today's politicians. They are driven by huge money and special interest groups. The Democrats and Republicans in DC right now are the sickest group of people we have ever had running this country. All you can really do is vomit at the nonsense going on there.

Now that would be a waste of perfectly good vomit.
A better comparison might be canine fecal matter, but that might be insulting to dogs.

[TheSpyder]

Amen to the last posts. Instead of "George Bush the Liberal" it should be "George Bush the Dick Hea*!"

We need a third party, if not a forth....now.

Spyder

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Downthestretch55

Danzig,
I'm a bit confused. Did Clinton pardon anyone that was serving in his administration to protect either himself or his vice president?
My recollection is a bit hazy, and who was Charles the first's lawyer.
Emporer George's was named Alberto. He sure knew "law", but had serious memory lapses on other minor things.

not sure if any of the 141 pardons clinton signed his last day in office alone had to do with anyone in his admin--maybe a pre-dated one for sandy 'classified documents is my middle name' berger?--but when george PARDONS someone, i'm sure we'll hear about it.

for the clintons to complain is the height of hypocrisy--but no doubt plenty of the republicans who complained are now celebrating libbys sentence reduction.

it is on both sides, absolutely!! pot calls kettle black every day in d.c. and it's a shame, and an embarrassment that this great country is run by people on both sides of the aisle who scream bloody murder when the other party does exactly what they themselves are doing!

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by byalip

Noooo....I actually believe it exposes a level of hypocrisy.

that's been exposed for ages, on both sides of the aisle.

[byalip]

Danzig...this is my favorite Bush bon mot.

When pardoning Scooter Libby, Bush stated, "I have concluded that the prison sentence given to Mr. Libby is excessive."

Let's take a trip down memory lane:
George W. Bush, during his six years as governor of Texas, presided over 152 executions, more than any other governor in the recent history of the United States. A couple of noteworthy opportunities were presented to GWB:

• Terry Washington, a mentally retarded man of thirty-three with the communication skills of a seven-year-old and a nincompoop for a lawyer. Terry was a very bad guy and society deserved to be protected from him...but kill him??? C'mon
• Karla Faye Tucker, my all-time favorite. She became a household name while awaiting execution because of the sincerity of her religious conversion. People all over the world, from the Pope, to Bianca Jagger, Pat Robertson and even Jerry Falwell pleaded with Bush to grant her clemency. Journalist Tucker Carlson caught Bush, in an unguarded moment, ridiculing Karla Faye when she appeared on Larry King Live. "Please," Bush whimpered, his lips pursed in mock desperation, "please, don't kill me."

Sorry for the long winded essay, but I firmly believe that everyone needs to know these things. I don't want Bush to be excused by anyone who thinks all politicians are just as bad. They're not. Bush-Cheney invented a new level of evil.

[Danzig]

some people support the death penalty, and some don't. i've said before that except in extreme cases, i do not--so you certainly won't get me defending bush in that regard.

but to say that he and his vp have ratcheted things up to a new level of evil--well, i disagree.

both sides engage in behavior that most of us would not, and both sides criticize the other for those same behaviors. for any accusation against one party, or member, no doubt similar happenings could be found for the other.

i know members of each party like to point at members of the other for their bad behavior, and then excuse like behavior when it's one of 'their own'. i think that is also a shame. both sides love to talk ethics--as long as it's 'the other side' who is being investigated.

it would be lovely if both parties would come to understand that they are all supposed to be on 'our side'!!!

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by byalip

Danzig...this is my favorite Bush bon mot.

When pardoning Scooter Libby, Bush stated, "I have concluded that the prison sentence given to Mr. Libby is excessive."
Let's take a trip down memory lane:
George W. Bush, during his six years as governor of Texas, presided over 152 executions, more than any other governor in the recent history of the United States. A couple of noteworthy opportunities were presented to GWB:

• Terry Washington, a mentally retarded man of thirty-three with the communication skills of a seven-year-old and a nincompoop for a lawyer. Terry was a very bad guy and society deserved to be protected from him...but kill him??? C'mon
• Karla Faye Tucker, my all-time favorite. She became a household name while awaiting execution because of the sincerity of her religious conversion. People all over the world, from the Pope, to Bianca Jagger, Pat Robertson and even Jerry Falwell pleaded with Bush to grant her clemency. Journalist Tucker Carlson caught Bush, in an unguarded moment, ridiculing Karla Faye when she appeared on Larry King Live. "Please," Bush whimpered, his lips pursed in mock desperation, "please, don't kill me."

Sorry for the long winded essay, but I firmly believe that everyone needs to know these things. I don't want Bush to be excused by anyone who thinks all politicians are just as bad. They're not. Bush-Cheney invented a new level of evil.

also, for the record, bush has not pardoned libby, he commuted the prison portion of his sentence--which is his right to do so as president, much like a pardon would be--as was clintons right to do so before he left office, and he did just that.

[Crown@club]

Originally Posted by Danzig

not sure if any of the 141 pardons clinton signed his last day in office alone had to do with anyone in his admin--maybe a pre-dated one for sandy 'classified documents is my middle name' berger?--but when george PARDONS someone, i'm sure we'll hear about it.

for the clintons to complain is the height of hypocrisy--but no doubt plenty of the republicans who complained are now celebrating libbys sentence reduction.

it is on both sides, absolutely!! pot calls kettle black every day in d.c. and it's a shame, and an embarrassment that this great country is run by people on both sides of the aisle who scream bloody murder when the other party does exactly what they themselves are doing!

We've always heard about! Complaints when George Sr did it, and complaints when Clinton did it. Its total hypocrisy from all sides.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Crown@club

We've always heard about! Complaints when George Sr did it, and complaints when Clinton did it. Its total hypocrisy from all sides.

i know it, it's ridiculous!

remember travelgate? now it's alberto.


pot, meet kettle. kettle, pot....nice to meet you. likewise i'm sure.