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Old 01-29-2007, 04:11 PM
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Why lie about it?
He was under contract with the Dolphins and for legal reasons couldn't tell the truth. He's not a fool.
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Old 01-29-2007, 04:11 PM
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People quit jobs all of the time to take better ones. Why stay somewhere when you aren't happy?
it's funny...i don't know. i've been happy with all my jobs. and he hasn't at any. wonder if 'bama will make him happy?
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Old 01-29-2007, 04:12 PM
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no--we have to choose a side. sunni or shiite. you know--like in the revolution--brits or patriots. civil war--north or south.
pick a side. the sunnis and shiites are tearing the place apart. one has to 'win' the other has to 'lose'. they can't both be in power. we aren't talking dems and reps here.
Danzig,
You might find it interesting that at Najarif (sp) this past weekend, the Sunni and Shia were united...together firing against our military.
That whole situation is too confused.
We can't help with the rebuilding at this point.
We can offer air support to the Iraqi army, but then they shoot down our Black Hawks with rpg's.
Iraq won't start healing until we redeploy. Then, later, maybe...we can send in people to restore the water and electric.
So much of what's really going on doesn't appear in the US media.
It's a mess, and our continued presence isn't helping. Our guys are in a shooting gallery...and that makes no sense at all.
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Old 01-29-2007, 04:18 PM
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it's funny...i don't know. i've been happy with all my jobs. and he hasn't at any. wonder if 'bama will make him happy?
I'm not sure if he'll be happy. He might get fired regardless.
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Old 01-29-2007, 04:18 PM
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He was under contract with the Dolphins and for legal reasons couldn't tell the truth. He's not a fool.
He didn't have to lie, Pillow... he could have said, "Right now, I'm not taking the Alabama job." Technically, that wouldn't have been a lie if he had said it in that kind of manner. Damn, here we go again on Saban. LOL
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Old 01-29-2007, 04:19 PM
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Danzig,
You might find it interesting that at Najarif (sp) this past weekend, the Sunni and Shia were united...together firing against our military.
That whole situation is too confused.
We can't help with the rebuilding at this point.
We can offer air support to the Iraqi army, but then they shoot down our Black Hawks with rpg's.
Iraq won't start healing until we redeploy. Then, later, maybe...we can send in people to restore the water and electric.
So much of what's really going on doesn't appear in the US media.
It's a mess, and our continued presence isn't helping. Our guys are in a shooting gallery...and that makes no sense at all.
it's a mess. reminds me a bit of ireland--when they weren't fighting the brits, they were fighting each other. funny, they always seemed pretty happy.

i just feel like we haven't done enough. what we did was half-assed or something. then i feel we did a horrible thing by going into a sovereign country. saddam was a horrible person. but we've made a horrible mess. and i don't want to just leave it a horrible mess...
in other words....this whole situations is a freaking mess. but i don't see how we can just leave it.

i've always told my kids to do your best. that you should try your hardest. have we? i mean, yeah, it's HARD. but that's not a good enough reason to stop, is it? we broke it, we have to fix it. or is it irreparable?
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Old 01-29-2007, 04:20 PM
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I'm not sure if he'll be happy. He might get fired regardless.
oh, the humanity! he's sure jumped in with both feet. i wish him best of luck.

he's going to need it.
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Old 01-29-2007, 04:23 PM
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DTS.
You might find it interesting that the Iraqis called us in to kill over 100 Sunni insurgents in hiding. Americans are NOT THE MAIN TARGET ANYMORE.

And for those of you who dont think W has given up, he basically has. The Iraqi govermnment will not cooperate with getting rid of the Shiite insurgents and that is our out. The majority of our ground forces will be gone in 2-3 years. After 3 months of trying to control some of the violence in Baghdad with the "new" strategy, we will begin to draw down and the Arabs will have to solve the internal religious struggles. Iran v. Saudi Arabia.
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Old 01-29-2007, 04:26 PM
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He didn't have to lie, Pillow... he could have said, "Right now, I'm not taking the Alabama job." Technically, that wouldn't have been a lie if he had said it in that kind of manner. Damn, here we go again on Saban. LOL
I know!! I wish you haters would back up off the grille of our head coach!!

That reminds me....is thursday national signing day?
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Old 01-29-2007, 06:22 PM
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DTS.
You might find it interesting that the Iraqis called us in to kill over 100 Sunni insurgents in hiding. Americans are NOT THE MAIN TARGET ANYMORE.

And for those of you who dont think W has given up, he basically has. The Iraqi govermnment will not cooperate with getting rid of the Shiite insurgents and that is our out. The majority of our ground forces will be gone in 2-3 years. After 3 months of trying to control some of the violence in Baghdad with the "new" strategy, we will begin to draw down and the Arabs will have to solve the internal religious struggles. Iran v. Saudi Arabia.
A correction with the latest evidence:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/29/wo...rtner=homepage
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Old 01-30-2007, 01:23 AM
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When is good time to give up then? When all else fails?
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Old 01-30-2007, 07:51 AM
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A correction with the latest evidence:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/29/wo...rtner=homepage
Pgardn,
That was an interesting article.
Thanks.
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Old 01-30-2007, 08:13 AM
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When is good time to give up then? When all else fails?
i don't know. i don't like the thought of giving up. of course if we reach the point of no return, then what else could we do? have we reached that point?

we can't do it all--a lot of it falls on the iraqis sholders--but they didn't ask for the mess we've put them in either. we are largely responsible-so i don't see how we can just walk away.

but we aren't solving the problems we've created. we need to solve them, or find someone who will. hopefully not the iranians!
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Old 01-30-2007, 10:08 AM
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I'm more concerned with the stability of Pakistan due to the attempted assassinations of President Musharraf. If he's assassinated then all hell could break lose over there.
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Old 02-01-2007, 10:58 AM
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DTS.
You might find it interesting that the Iraqis called us in to kill over 100 Sunni insurgents in hiding. Americans are NOT THE MAIN TARGET ANYMORE.

And for those of you who dont think W has given up, he basically has. The Iraqi govermnment will not cooperate with getting rid of the Shiite insurgents and that is our out. The majority of our ground forces will be gone in 2-3 years. After 3 months of trying to control some of the violence in Baghdad with the "new" strategy, we will begin to draw down and the Arabs will have to solve the internal religious struggles. Iran v. Saudi Arabia.
Pgardn,
Here's a follow-up article that you might find to be of interest...
http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=36391
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