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Old 11-13-2006, 05:27 PM
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I guess there is a gap between your use of the term "ninety percent" and his use of the word "some". One reason this barn will never do well at Keeneland is the stock in the barn, Assmussen/Blasi are basically claiming trainers and excell with horses running for tags that have conditions. At Keeneland, races for these types are seldom carded. Additionally because of their sheer numbers they can drop one in, lose it, then replace it, all in the same day.

Their biggest (non-pharmaceutical) advantage is that their operation with young horses is superb. Their youngsters are very well prepared, and often win "off" the farm.

With that aside, I am still a bit confused given your "in" with the Werner barn, selecting a horse (Rightplaceintime) that looked awful, and yet, not mention the Werner colt (Grand Escape that looked a standout!
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Old 11-13-2006, 05:53 PM
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Grand Escape was beaten by like 4 lengths with a golden trip.....he wasn't fast enough to win the race with his best IMO, while Asmussen's horse was and so was Go Bucky Go.....again, you get steam on horses and have to process it with other variables you know and come to a conclusion based on your convistions and instincts....I didn't think Grand Escape could win the race and he didn't....

Hell, I almost didn't use Bright Hall but am glad I did when he paid $12.80 because he was being touted like mad, however the person who was touting him is one who I normally will disregard because I haven't had much luck with touts from that barn....

It is what it is, man...you get LOADS of steam after knowing people in this business and being around the track and you have to know how to process it. When I hear of a horse who has never run and has slow works and a no-name jockey on his back - like Corporal - and he goes off at 23-1, I'll take SERIOUS notice on that steam....Grand Escape in a tough field at a fraction of the price doesn't appeal to me.....sorry

Oh, and watch out stereotyping the Ass-man's fleet as a big operation that is only good in the claim game and with babies.....now that he finally has an owner who will spend some cash (Jess Jackson) he is getting some VERY nice and expensive horse flesh - plenty good enough to win at Keeneland. Hell, he has a leading Derby candidate right now in Tiz Wonderful and even before that he had SEVERAL graded stakes winners over the last 5 years or so......its not like he trains a bunch of crippled claimers....he has quality too...

A year or two ago his biggest owner was Mr. Heiligbrodt but that guy only spent up to $180K or so for a horse, which was stepping out for him - and Steve picked out some very nice horses for bargain prices... he did the same for Mr. McCarty last year....Now he has the wallet to go deep in the sales and he has horses like Napa Cat, Kuaui Calls, Tiz Wonderful, etc. to show for it....

Also, he has won Keeneland training titles before - so I guess that dispells the myth that he can't win races at that track....I believe the reason that most of his horses didn't fire big there this past meet is because he trains so much speed into them and speed was NOT the tactic that you wanted to have if you were going to win races last month in Lexington......and yes, MOST of his horses failed to run as well as they expected at KEE last month....whether the number was 90% or 83% or 96.237% - I don't know...I didn't mean it that literally....

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Old 11-13-2006, 06:00 PM
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the little lights are not twinkling Clark...

I know Art, thanks for noticing...

my absolute favorite movie ever
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Old 11-13-2006, 06:12 PM
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the little lights are not twinkling Clark...

I know Art, thanks for noticing...

my absolute favorite movie ever
I watched it for the 67,489th time in my life last night and still wound up bellied-over on the floor spitting my beer everywhere....classic stuff....one of those movies that you can watch in a pissed off mood and it will have you in the best spirits afterward...

”Hey. If any of you are looking for any last-minute gift ideas for me, I have one. I'd like Frank Shirley, my boss, right here tonight. I want him brought from his happy holiday slumber over there on Melody Lane with all the other rich people and I want him brought right here, with a big ribbon on his head, and I want to look him straight in the eye and I want to tell him what a cheap, lying, no-good, rotten, four-flushing, low-life, snake-licking, dirt-eating, inbred, overstuffed, ignorant, blood-sucking, dog-kissing, brainless, hopeless, heartless, fat-ass, bug-eyed, stiff-legged, spotty-lipped, worm-headed sack of monkey he is. Hallelujah. Where's the Tylenol?” --- Clark W. Griswold

...gotta love it
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Old 11-13-2006, 06:28 PM
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so uh Eddie where'd you get the tenament on wheels?
oh that? that ther's an RV...
looks so nice parked there in the drive way...
yup yup don't you go fallin in love with it now, we're taking it with us when we leave here next month...
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Old 11-13-2006, 06:35 PM
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Old 11-13-2006, 06:37 PM
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SHHH I hear it too....
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Old 11-13-2006, 06:39 PM
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Cousin Eddie "Sh!tters full!"
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Old 11-13-2006, 06:40 PM
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Cousin Eddie "Sh!tters full!"
UNCLE EDDIE...c'mon Jim keep up
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Old 11-13-2006, 06:42 PM
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Old 11-13-2006, 06:43 PM
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UNCLE EDDIE...c'mon Jim keep up
Nope, you'd be wrong. He was Ellens cousin Eddie.
that's how its listed in the credits.
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Old 11-13-2006, 06:45 PM
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Old 11-13-2006, 06:48 PM
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Nope, you'd be wrong. He was Ellens cousin Eddie.
that's how its listed in the credits.
touchee...could have sworn he is reffered to as uncle eddie in X-mas vaca.

every time catherine reved up the microwave I'd crap my pants and forget who I was for an hour...
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Old 11-13-2006, 07:01 PM
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When you think of funny holiday movies, this is one of the classics.


Eddie - You surprised to see us Clark?
Clark - Eddie, if I woke up with my head sewn to the carpet I wouldn't be any more surprised than I am now.
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Old 11-13-2006, 07:05 PM
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she falls in a well her eyes go crossed, gets kicked by a mule they go back...I don't know.

you might want to take a raincheck on that art he's got a lip fungus they ain't identified yet.
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Old 11-13-2006, 08:20 PM
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Good points on Assmussen. But your race analysis, both before and after is perplexing. Seriously, no animosity aimed at you, but being new to this board I try to learn what people know. If I help some people so be it, and if I learn.... excellent.

You and I are different. You are in the "know" which is great, but I am an old school capper. I think the more time spent in the DRF, combined with decades of painful "lessons" gives us old-timers an advantage.

Earlier this thread you stated that Go Bucky Go drew the rail and that was inaccurate. Your last post concluded that Grand Escape was not fast enough to win, and that is difficult to back up with any data.
Thorograph had him MANY lengths faster than the others, the DRF credited 'Escape with a lofty 102 speed rating in his last, and he beat the eventual race winner handy in that race.

Also you mentioned he was beaten four lengths with a perfect trip. Neither accurate. My take was : Grand Escape broke very well, taken in hand, advanced outside five or six wide, game on at the pole. The rider throws two crosses, the colt explodes to challenge, then the rider drops the stick nearing the sixteenth marker, yet the colt gamely held the place. He was beat two lengths.

Again no offense intended, but it seems you did not spend a bunch of time cappin this heat. Not sour grapes here, as I tagged the exacta after tough beat at 12-1 in the previous race. Race victor True Course was claimed and had the best work of the day last Monday oddly, under Bridgmohan. Could not include him in the sequence at 2 for 16 but he figured close. By the way what this movie baloney? BBB
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Old 11-13-2006, 10:49 PM
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Can I get anything for you Eddie? Can I refill your eggnog for ya? Get ya something to eat? Drive you out to the middle of nowhere, leave ya for dead?

No I'm fine Clark
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Old 11-14-2006, 11:12 AM
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Ellen - Clark, I think it'd be best if everyone went home... before things get worse.

Clark - WORSE? How could things get any worse? Take a look around here, Ellen. We're at the threshold of hell.

And my all time fave...

Audrey - Do you sleep with YOUR brother? Do you know how sick and twisted that is, Mom?

Ellen - Well, I'm sleeping with your father.

LMFAO!!!
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