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Old 08-13-2014, 10:25 AM
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I hope behind the scenes, Dooley got a pay raise from CD as a persuasion to stay.

I also highly doubt that happened.
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Old 08-13-2014, 01:33 PM
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At some point if you are a fellow announcer do you just give up?

It's getting pretty ridiculous at this point. He's simply not that much better than everyone else.

All I can think of is the guy has no personality outside of the track and he's safe because of that.

They'd rather deal with him than hiring someone who posts on message boards and/or someone that does impersonations.

They can and will always use age and experience with the younger guys.

I give this hire a big MEH
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Old 08-13-2014, 02:35 PM
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I think that Larry is a good caller and he seemed like a nice guy the one time I met him. My qualms with him though is I've found that since he's moved on from his Monmouth/Suffolk days he's tried too hard in some of his big race calls, and that seems to have become an unfortunate theme. For example, his BC Classic call last year was painful, IMO. At Monmouth he was one of my favourite announcers, and I would sometimes play the signal just because of that, but now I rarely pay attention to his calls. I think if he could go back to what got him to where he is then he would be great for the NYRA circuit. There were other guys around that I hoped would get the gig or are good enough for the gig, but here's to hoping it works out for the best. And Larry, if you're reading this, take it as good criticism!
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Old 08-13-2014, 04:18 PM
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I hope behind the scenes, Dooley got a pay raise from CD as a persuasion to stay.

I also highly doubt that happened.
I would be absolutely shocked if Dooley received a retention bonus from Churchill given that he calls for two other tracks including Arlington.

That said, I would love to see him come into the Kentucky circuit at Churchill. Building that base and with his Arlington background, having him replace Mike Battaglia at Turfway would be a major score for east coast racing.
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Old 08-13-2014, 08:47 PM
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"Into the final furlong, ‘My Wife Knows Everything.’ ‘The Wife Doesn’t Know.’ They’re one, two. Of course they are,”

“To the outside, ‘The Wife Doesn’t Know. ‘My Wife Knows Everything.’ ‘The Wife Doesn’t Know.’ ‘My Wife Knows Everything’ more than ‘The Wife Doesn’t Know!”

Just reading this transcript alone, I couldn't tell who won the race.
This is Collmus' career highlight. An obscure claiming race at Monmouth on a weekday. Yawn

I suppose a Viral video really can take you far in life.
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Old 08-13-2014, 11:05 PM
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I would be absolutely shocked if Dooley received a retention bonus from Churchill given that he calls for two other tracks including Arlington.

That said, I would love to see him come into the Kentucky circuit at Churchill. Building that base and with his Arlington background, having him replace Mike Battaglia at Turfway would be a major score for east coast racing.
When did Turfway become an East Coast track? And I think most would consider TP a decided step down from the Fair Grounds.
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Old 08-14-2014, 07:40 AM
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"Into the final furlong, ‘My Wife Knows Everything.’ ‘The Wife Doesn’t Know.’ They’re one, two. Of course they are,”

“To the outside, ‘The Wife Doesn’t Know. ‘My Wife Knows Everything.’ ‘The Wife Doesn’t Know.’ ‘My Wife Knows Everything’ more than ‘The Wife Doesn’t Know!”

Just reading this transcript alone, I couldn't tell who won the race.
This is Collmus' career highlight. An obscure claiming race at Monmouth on a weekday. Yawn

I suppose a Viral video really can take you far in life.
I disagree; Collmus is a very good race caller, and your cited example is akin to Robin Williams (RIP) with his Mork character, which brought him to the public eye. Larry Collmus wouldnot be hired by Gulfstream, CD and NYRA and the BC etc. if he was a one note guy. I like his calls and find him intelligent and witty as well as an accurate racecaller who doesn't miss much. I will certainly enjoy hearing him in the future.
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Old 08-14-2014, 07:47 AM
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When did Turfway become an East Coast track? And I think most would consider TP a decided step down from any track in NorthAmerica
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Old 08-14-2014, 08:02 AM
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"Into the final furlong, ‘My Wife Knows Everything.’ ‘The Wife Doesn’t Know.’ They’re one, two. Of course they are,”

“To the outside, ‘The Wife Doesn’t Know. ‘My Wife Knows Everything.’ ‘The Wife Doesn’t Know.’ ‘My Wife Knows Everything’ more than ‘The Wife Doesn’t Know!”

Just reading this transcript alone, I couldn't tell who won the race.
This is Collmus' career highlight. An obscure claiming race at Monmouth on a weekday. Yawn

I suppose a Viral video really can take you far in life.
Totally disagree, this just happened to be a fluky call that mainstream America picked up on and went viral. He's a very good race caller that has had a lot more career highlights than you are giving him credit for.
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Old 08-14-2014, 10:08 AM
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I would be absolutely shocked if Dooley received a retention bonus from Churchill given that he calls for two other tracks including Arlington.

That said, I would love to see him come into the Kentucky circuit at Churchill. Building that base and with his Arlington background, having him replace Mike Battaglia at Turfway would be a major score for east coast racing.
FYI both Arlington and The Fairgrounds are owned by CD.
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Old 08-14-2014, 01:20 PM
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I like Collmus and Dooley, but neither are spectacular. Frankly I am not aware of anyone who is spectacular waiting in the wings, so I don't really see the big differences among the "top" guys out there.

Collumus has the sweet snowbird deal now--GP late fall and winter, NYRA otherwise. As was mentioned, Durkin did this years ago.
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Old 08-14-2014, 03:53 PM
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"Into the final furlong, ‘My Wife Knows Everything.’ ‘The Wife Doesn’t Know.’ They’re one, two. Of course they are,”

“To the outside, ‘The Wife Doesn’t Know. ‘My Wife Knows Everything.’ ‘The Wife Doesn’t Know.’ ‘My Wife Knows Everything’ more than ‘The Wife Doesn’t Know!”

Just reading this transcript alone, I couldn't tell who won the race.
This is Collmus' career highlight. An obscure claiming race at Monmouth on a weekday. Yawn

I suppose a Viral video really can take you far in life.
Agreed.
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Old 08-14-2014, 03:59 PM
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Frankly I am not aware of anyone who is spectacular waiting in the wings, so I don't really see the big differences among the "top" guys out there.
For some, they might just be happy where they are and don't want to move. For example, Robert Geller is extremely underrated and belongs at bigger tracks than at Emerald and Sunland, but from what I understand he's also quite content on those locations and has already been there and done that (HKJC). I am sure this goes for other announcers too.
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Old 08-14-2014, 05:25 PM
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Looking forward to hearing him at Saratoga.

I sided with VJS back when the Collmus/Stauffer debate was on here. That was because Barbaro's Florida Derby call was/is my favorite ever and I had thought Collmus was very monotone.

Ask me today, and i'd go with Collmus (not a knock on Vic).
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Old 08-14-2014, 10:57 PM
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Totally disagree, this just happened to be a fluky call that mainstream America picked up on and went viral. He's a very good race caller that has had a lot more career highlights than you are giving him credit for.
Please provide a race call that would come close to the artistry of Durkin or Denman. I hit the mute button on BC and TC days on NBC of late.
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Old 08-15-2014, 07:15 AM
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Totally disagree, this just happened to be a fluky call that mainstream America picked up on and went viral. He's a very good race caller that has had a lot more career highlights than you are giving him credit for.
yeah, it's not as tho he knew ahead of time that it would get all that attention. it went viral because a lot of people thought it was a fun call.

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Please provide a race call that would come close to the artistry of Durkin or Denman. I hit the mute button on BC and TC days on NBC of late.
denman? not a fan at all.
as for durkin, we all know no one else out there comes up to durkins level. collmus has a huge difficulty ahead of him.
i don't think it would matter who got hired, it's not durkin-but that's life.
just be glad it's not battaglia.
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Old 08-15-2014, 09:45 AM
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Please provide a race call that would come close to the artistry of Durkin or Denman. I hit the mute button on BC and TC days on NBC of late.
Denman's calls are always so fresh. You NEVER hear him using the same phrases over and over...

This isn't a kiss-up to Travis since I've never had a discussion with him in my life, but it would have been great had they gone with him. A solid caller who has shown well on big days, but isn't as widely used.
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Old 08-15-2014, 09:50 AM
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Denman's calls are always so fresh. You NEVER hear him using the same phrases over and over...

This isn't a kiss-up to Travis since I've never had a discussion with him in my life, but it would have been great had they gone with him. A solid caller who has shown well on big days, but isn't as widely used.
i mute the tv before the gate breaks on denman-the growl of 'and away they go' just puts my teeth on edge....and i think i'll start playing a drinking game for every time he says 'scrapes the paint'.

travis is a great caller, miss him down here at la downs-but sure don't blame him for leaving.
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i mute the tv before the gate breaks on denman-the growl of 'and away they go' just puts my teeth on edge....and i think i'll start playing a drinking game for every time he says 'scrapes the paint'.

travis is a great caller, miss him down here at la downs-but sure don't blame him for leaving.
"Sprout wings" is the phrase that kills me.
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"Sprout wings" is the phrase that kills me.
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