Typical of this administration, 288k new jobs in June

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

That study was totally flawed. Here is why:

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/...-news-viewers/

I'm supposed to take a fox defense by fox seriously?

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Danzig

I'm supposed to take a fox defense by fox seriously?

None of the other news outlets are going to defend Fox. Fox is beating them all in the ratings. The other news outlets were thrilled with the story. Why would the other news outlets try to show that the study was flawed?

Anyway, after reading some of the questions that were asked in the study, I don't know how anyone could think that study was reliable.

And yes, when a company or person is accused of something, I'm going to want to hear their defense. After listening to their defense, I may or may not think they won the argument, but I will at least listen to their argument. You can't find someone guilty of something without listening to their defense.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by Danzig

I'm supposed to take a fox defense by fox seriously?

This piece is a classic look at typical FOX misinformation to try to make its point. From the piece:

"Question #4: "Do you think that MOST SCIENTISTS believe that climate change is occurring, not occurring, or views are evenly divided?" (emphasis in the original). Of course, the answer WorldPublicOpinion.org wants was that most scientists believe that climate change is occurring. Again, the question is poorly worded. In particular, it fails to specify what time period is relevant. Have temperatures risen since the end of The Little Ice Age in 1850? Surely, no one disagrees with that. Have temperatures changed much since 1998? Few scientists would claim so. Judging from the WorldPublicOpinion.org's report, the authors are clearly pushing the man-made global warming viewpoint. But on that score, there is little unanimity. For example, a 2010 survey of American weather forecasters found only 17 percent to believe in man-made global warming. And, as for scientists in general, 9,029 Ph.D.s signed a petition this year disputing man-made global warming claims."

Note how in the second half of this, the Op-ed switches the terminology from "climate change" (what the original question was about) to "man-made global warming." It's verbal sleight-of-hand and is quite common when someone wants to mislead without appearing to do so. The two terms are not synonymous. So, FOX can say, "Look! There are scientists who dispute man-made global warming!" when the survey question was "Do most scientists believe climate change is occurring, not occurring, or evenly divided?" The original question makes no claim as to cause of climate change, but FOX is happy to impose one in order to misinform.

For that matter, "climate change" and "global warming" (regardless of man-made or not) are not the same thing, either.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Kasept

http://mediamatters.org/mobile/blog/...cnn-are/199973

Unemployment drops to lowest level since November '08..

Note amusing news coverage differences as gathered by MM4A.

By the way, as is usually the case with these things, those numbers only tell half the story. Here is the other half:

"The number of Americans 16 and older who did not participate in the labor force climbed to a record high of 92,120,000 in June, according to data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS).

This means that there were 92,120,000 Americans 16 and older who not only did not have a job, but did not actively seek one in the last four weeks.

That is up 111,000 from the 92,009,000 Americans who were not participating in the labor force in April."

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/ali-...bor-force-june