Discreet Cat's BC Plans Announced

[Downthestretch55]

I'd love to see them eat a super-sized slice of "humble pie".

[Danzig]

shame they aren't running consecutively, as i'd love to bet a discreet cat/discreet cat/ discreet cat pick three. not that it would pay much, everyone would be all over him...

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

That was pretty funny BTW...

[DiscreetCat=Monster]

even if he won all three it would only pay like $20 on the PK 4



I would still give my LEFT NUT to own him!

[paisjpq]

andy you have outdone yourself...LMAO

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Following the preliminaries to Discreet Cat's guaranteed victory in today's Jerome Handicap at Belmont over such luminaries as Nar and Quietly Go Goldolphin Stables, in their usually " throw caution to the wind " style, have announced an ambitious assault on this year's BC. They have contacted BC officials, who were more than willing to reshuffle the sequence of races in order to accomodate the man who filled the coffers of all breeders, and subsequently will be running Discreet Cat in the BC Sprint ( now the first race ), the BC Mile ( now the 4th race ) and either the BC Turf or the BC Classic.

While this aggressive schedule may seem unrealistic to some it is hardly surprising for both a horse so obviously better than any horse that ever lived and for as daring a stable as Godolphin. While they recognized that Discreet Cat would be making as many starts on November 4th as many of their charges make in a lifetime the Sheik was quick to point out " Special horses demand special situations ". In this time of shortened careers and careful placing this writer is proud to see the Sheik stepping out from the crowd.

Garrett Gomez, Discreet Cat's rider, was quick to point out that the BC Sprint was really going to take no more effort than Discreet Cat's normal prerace warmup. Thus he will be well warmed up for the BC Mile, and as Gomez said, we all know he is equally good on all surfaces. Thus both races will be mere cakewalks for this proven superstar.

While Godolphin is expected to then hold out for the Classic, there are some that believe Discreet Cat will run in the BC Turf simply to keep their options open for then returning in the Classic. As for those that think they will skip the Classic just to allow their other star, Bernardini, win that race, the Sheik scoffed at that notion. " Why would we allow an inferior beast such as Bernardini to steal the limelight from his obviously superior stablemate? "

I, for one, can hardly wait.

This post has helped me to see the stupidity of my thinking. What this sport needs more of is people without imagination. We need more people to stick with the traditional ways and to stop thinking outside of the box. We need to stop running fillies against the boys. That's stupid. Forget about what Winning Colors, Lady's Secret, Personal Ensign, and Serena's Song did. Girls shouldn't run against the boys. Pride has NO CHANCE of beating out Hurricane Run, Shirocco, and Deep Impact today in the Arc. Instead, she needs to be in the Prix Opera. Girls against girls, boys against boys. What else? Oh yeah, horses should NEVER switch surfaces because when u are good on one, u need to stay on that one because u can't be good on another. I wish the trainers of horses like Lava Man, John Henry, Giant's Causeway, and Secretariat would understand this simple truth. What else? Well, while we are at it, 3yo's shouldn't run against older. There are too many races for 3yo's to stick with their own kind and it makes no sense to step outside of their division. Guys like Neil Drysdale and Andre Fabre are obviously idiots. I mean, didn't Drysdale realize that Prized was a really good dirt horse, good enough to beat Sunday Silence in the Swaps? What was he thinking when he put Prized in the BC Turf as his grass debut? That Prized WON the race is irrelevant. It was a dumb move. And Fabre is really stupid. I mean he took a horse named Jolypha and ran her against just about EVERY logical training edict there is. To start, Jolypha was a multiple grade one winning, champion 3yo filly in France. So what does Fabre do with her? He ships her across the Atlantic to run her against males (older ones at that) in the BC Classic, her first start on dirt. It doesn't get more ridiculous than this does it? That she finished third, only beaten 1/2 length by our champion older male is irrelevant. It was a stupid idea to try it.

My point here? I guess I really don't have one. By his comments, I know I partly inspired BTW to write this post. It was actually pretty well written and pretty funny. But what is so wrong about me suggesting that it would be a good idea to run Discreet Cat in the BC Mile? Sure it would be his first start on grass but if he's really supposed to be an extraordinary horse, as I believe he is, shouldn't he be able to do extraordinary things? Prized could switch over with no problems. Giant's Causeway, Sakhee, Johannesburg, Arazi, Sheikh Albadou, Dayjur, Arcangues, Ibn Bey.....all horses that made their debut on a new surface in a BC race and either won or ran in the money. Why can't Discreet Cat do it? We know that the mile distance would probably be perfect for him. If he's good enough, they could win BC races with him and Bernardini and never have to run them against each other. Wouldn't that be ideal for them? Why is it such a silly idea?

[DiscreetCat=Monster]

King, I like your style. I think it was just supposed to be funny but it made the person that wrote it look like they have been living in a box.

[blackthroatedwind]

Yes, King Glorious, it is, of course, all about you. The Sheik, in fact, mentioned you in the press conference. Of course, and I know you understand this, I left you out so as not to steal thunder from this momentous occasion.

I did, however, credit you to my editor.

[Gander]

"Valid Notebook, in an all out drive to hold 2nd"

I'd like to know which race Durkin was watching.

[King Glorious]

And the $5 million Classic isn't the only race Discreet Cat's connections are contemplating. Rick Mettee, the assistant trainer for Godolphin Racing, said Monday that the $2 million Sprint could also be an option for Discreet Cat, who is 3 for 3 around one turn.

"He might just be good enough to do it," Mettee said. "He's got a lot of natural speed to stay close. It's always a tough raceo- there are usually horses in form and with more seasoning than us - but he might be the kind of horse to do it."

Most racing observers would love to see Discreet Cat face Bernardini in the $5 million Classic. But since Sheikh Mohamed bin Rashid al Maktoum owns both horses, that meeting is unlikely to happen. Bernardini, the Preakness and Travers winner, is scheduled to run in Saturday's $750,000 Jockey Club Gold Cup. Mettee said that no decision regarding Discreet Cat's next race would be made until after Bernardini runs. Sheikh Rashid, the son of Sheikh Mohammed, owns Henny Hughes, who is running in Saturday's Vosburgh, a key prep for the Breeders' Cup Sprint.

"The Sprint, Classic, or Cigar Mile, I would think you would see him in one of the three," Mettee said.
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When he won that allowance race and they said he wouldn't be running in the BC, I said I didn't believe that to be true. Just yesterday, when I said that I believe that the BC was in the plan all along, BTW said this to me:

"I think it is very presumptuous of you to continue to make these claims. Godolphin is seemingly pretty clear about their plans and I don't think they have been planning some sort of sneak attack on the BC."

Well, now it's looking more and more like they are seriously considering the BC. The most telling comment was when they said no decision will be made until after Bernardini runs. Isn't that exactly what I said the other day, before the Jerome?

Originally Posted by King Glorious

Bernardini-goes in the Classic ONLY with a win in the JCGC.
Discreet Cat-goes in the Classic ONLY with a win tomorrow AND a Bernardini loss in the JCGC.
Invasor-goes in the Classic ONLY if Discreet Cat AND Bernardini both lose.

Maybe I'm not as big an uninformed idiot as BTW says I am. Maybe there is something to what I've been saying. I still would not rule the Mile out but that's a longshot at best.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

Maybe I'm not as big an uninformed idiot as BTW says I am. Maybe there is something to what I've been saying. I still would not rule the Mile out but that's a longshot at best.

Oh, you're uninformed for sure, but I will leave the " idiot " part for others to decide. But, what you also are is a guy who takes " internet chances "....and NOW you are gloating?

Give me a break. Obviously they are going to discuss the BC, duh, so you are hardly a brilliant prognosticator. But, the funniest part is that what you really have been insisting is that he would run in the BC Mile! Where is that mention by Godolphin.

I was wrong, your sentiments really do belong in this thread, that's how silly they are.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Oh, you're uninformed for sure, but I will leave the " idiot " part for others to decide. But, what you also are is a guy who takes " internet chances "....and NOW you are gloating?

Give me a break. Obviously they are going to discuss the BC, duh, so you are hardly a brilliant prognosticator. But, the funniest part is that what you really have been insisting is that he would run in the BC Mile! Where is that mention by Godolphin.

I was wrong, your sentiments really do belong in this thread, that's how silly they are.

Never said he would run in the Mile. Said he SHOULD. I thought it was Classic or no go. I was surprised to see they are considering the Sprint.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

Never said he would run in the Mile. Said he SHOULD. I thought it was Classic or no go. I was surprised to see they are considering the Sprint.

I would love to see him in the classic as well and i think he wins there if he should go. Yes, bernardini lovers, I think Discreet Cat is the better horse and thats based on nothing more than visual impression. Burn me.

And, yes, i think if he decided to run in the mile he would have more than a puncher's chance.