Invasor, Excitement?

[boswd]

Originally Posted by Danzig188

invasor is certainly a bit forgotten. all the press in the east is on bernardini, and in the west you have lava man....leaving invasor as the monkey in the middle. horse has one defeat on an otherwise perfect, globe-trotting record. that one loss was to discreet cat in dubai, and that after leaving south america and going to florida, and then shipping to dubai. he was perfect before that trip, and is perfect since.

i'm looking forward very much to this race. yeah, he beat sun king...maybe he wasn't at his best after the spring he had and 'bounced', yet he still gutted out the win--after all, how many horses ship like that, and then run in the pimlico special for instance? let's not forget, discreet cat was already in dubia, only shipped here (not there and back), and just made HIS return. and then there's henny hughes, shipped over and back. how many starts has he had since arriving? well, you see my point.

I know it. I love all three horses. And how many horses in history have pulled off the Pim Special, Suburban, Whitney and JCGC? To me that would be an absolute amazing feat!!!!!

[Danzig]

hell of a year...i much prefer a thread like this than one denigrating the horses that are running. seems every year their are people who only criticize these horses, and decry their lack of talent and wish only for the good old days.
these are the good old days!!

i remember in years past that people would say the horses weren't as good....and now we compare today's horses to those (good) horses!! go figure.

lava man, bernardini and invasor are having the time of their life. how many races this year between the three of them??? two losses out of the lot!

[Linny]

Invasor may be hampered in peoples' perception by his tendency to win my average margins. He doesn't seem to be the type to "blow them away" but always does as asked.

By example, Tiznow was a grinder, FuPeg- his contemporary- had a flashier style and tends to be more memorable. Let's face it Tiz was a better racehorse.

[1st_Saturday_in_May]

Hiya Blocky!!! Nice to see you havent changed at all....what does WW2 have to do with Invasor and Bernardini? Wait, I really dont care...

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by Secretariat

and your not really worthy of a dialogue with me, so what pagan.

Is that suppose to upset me Blockhead? Everybody knows who, and more importantly what you are....you want to display your ignorance like some perverse badge of honor that's up to you...you came here looking for a fight as always...isn't it enough that everyone makes fun of you at ESPN? I warned you about your tirades...they don't upset me but they do you no good!

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Secretariat

kind of reminds me of america in WW2, after 50 million europeans all killed one other, we show three years into the war, mop up the downtrodend and say look how great we are, wasn't that easy. ya i guess it was when the 50 million real army men where already dead, leaving the boys and retirees to fight against. and before you go off on that, its just used as a comparison referencing runnig against what is left not the first string that was once there.

Revisionist history at it's pinnacle. I guess you missed history class and had to rely on the cliffnotes.

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Revisionist history at it's pinnacle. I guess you missed history class and had to rely on the cliffnotes.

No no, he just makes it up as he goes along.

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by oracle80

No no, he just makes it up as he goes along.

It would be hard to make up something as wildly incoherent as some of what he's written in this thread. I loved the pagan rant:

Originally Posted by Secretariat

and as far as the devil worshiper somer is concerned, if he ever walked by a church he might ignite, the pagan no mind.
how can someone claim to have an intellect and deny being.

That has a kind of weird beatnik ring to it, or maybe something a Zen-chimp would come up with.

--Dunbar

[DiscreetCat=Monster]

All this hype and a 40-1 shot will beat both of them and i am gonna laugh my as s off!

[NoCarolinaTony]

Dear Steve,

This is more of an editorial:

A a fan of your "former" website, who love's your radio program, enjoy's the cue at the SPA, and especially enjoy listening and reading you're work and handicapping articles and just plain old hanging out shooting the breeze with you, I am having a difficult time with many of the current discusions threads. There appears to be lots of Bravado and insensitive types who enjoy putting people down others as they can hide behind a screen name and do it annonomously. It is great to talk horses and disagree, but then we get into WWII discusions put downs by people who have no idea of what they speak, people putting people down by being obnoxious over and over. We should ignore the childish behavior but I thought I'd take a crack at trying to get the website forum back to its intended roots and thats to discuss horse racing, wagering, ownership, training, jockey's (another brilliant discussion HEY MY GUY GOMEZ WON ANOTHER 3 Races so I'm a Genious- Your Guy JOHNN V sux...)

I know you don't have time to police this, but as you read the site we get more into Bravado speak and less and less intelligent horse speak and handicapping discussions with merit.

Perhaps you can set aside a thread for the mindless discussions and monitor the users some to get this back to a civil discusion of points / counterpoints instead of put downs and insults. Or at least lets have one dedicated thread to intelligent discussion about horse racing and handicapping, which would be more of a reflection of the type of person and human being that I know that you are rather than what is running rampant throughout the site today. It's hard to weed out the good stuff from the crap anymore.

NC Tony

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by NoCarolinaTony

Dear Steve,

This is more of an editorial:

A a fan of your "former" website, who love's your radio program, enjoy's the cue at the SPA, and especially enjoy listening and reading you're work and handicapping articles and just plain old hanging out shooting the breeze with you, I am having a difficult time with many of the current discusions threads. There appears to be lots of Bravado and insensitive types who enjoy putting people down others as they can hide behind a screen name and do it annonomously. It is great to talk horses and disagree, but then we get into WWII discusions put downs by people who have no idea of what they speak, people putting people down by being obnoxious over and over. We should ignore the childish behavior but I thought I'd take a crack at trying to get the website forum back to its intended roots and thats to discuss horse racing, wagering, ownership, training, jockey's (another brilliant discussion HEY MY GUY GOMEZ WON ANOTHER 3 Races so I'm a Genious- Your Guy JOHNN V sux...)

I know you don't have time to police this, but as you read the site we get more into Bravado speak and less and less intelligent horse speak and handicapping discussions with merit.

Perhaps you can set aside a thread for the mindless discussions and monitor the users some to get this back to a civil discusion of points / counterpoints instead of put downs and insults. Or at least lets have one dedicated thread to intelligent discussion about horse racing and handicapping, which would be more of a reflection of the type of person and human being that I know that you are rather than what is running rampant throughout the site today. It's hard to weed out the good stuff from the crap anymore.

NC Tony

Tony, Steve has done that already. It seems that people bicker quite frequently on almost every thread, and I would imagine that it gets tough for Steve to decipher the good from the bad.

[NoCarolinaTony]

Knowing Steve I sure he would try to do that. I'm in and out of this site so it's hard to keep up, and once you get into the mindless stuff and insults, It kind of turns you off from moving on to more. I know that's not what Steve has intended.

With the BC coming up and some of the best handicap races of the year, we should have some excellent discussions about handicapping.

I will do whatever I can to to help Steve!!

I thought perhaps I could cause a mini revolt to take back this site and get this back to where it should be, A first class site to discuss Horeracing.!!

NC Tony

Originally Posted by NoCarolinaTony

Dear Steve,

This is more of an editorial:

A a fan of your "former" website, who love's your radio program, enjoy's the cue at the SPA, and especially enjoy listening and reading you're work and handicapping articles and just plain old hanging out shooting the breeze with you, I am having a difficult time with many of the current discusions threads. There appears to be lots of Bravado and insensitive types who enjoy putting people down others as they can hide behind a screen name and do it annonomously. It is great to talk horses and disagree, but then we get into WWII discusions put downs by people who have no idea of what they speak, people putting people down by being obnoxious over and over. We should ignore the childish behavior but I thought I'd take a crack at trying to get the website forum back to its intended roots and thats to discuss horse racing, wagering, ownership, training, jockey's (another brilliant discussion HEY MY GUY GOMEZ WON ANOTHER 3 Races so I'm a Genious- Your Guy JOHNN V sux...)

I know you don't have time to police this, but as you read the site we get more into Bravado speak and less and less intelligent horse speak and handicapping discussions with merit.

Perhaps you can set aside a thread for the mindless discussions and monitor the users some to get this back to a civil discusion of points / counterpoints instead of put downs and insults. Or at least lets have one dedicated thread to intelligent discussion about horse racing and handicapping, which would be more of a reflection of the type of person and human being that I know that you are rather than what is running rampant throughout the site today. It's hard to weed out the good stuff from the crap anymore.

NC Tony

NC Tony, he can't police it with all the other things he has going on. Its next to impossible.
Many don't appear to want to talk horse racing. Its a social circle for people who wanna tell us about other things.
I'd wish they'd stick to the off topic section.

Originally Posted by NoCarolinaTony

Dear Steve,

This is more of an editorial:

A a fan of your "former" website, who love's your radio program, enjoy's the cue at the SPA, and especially enjoy listening and reading you're work and handicapping articles and just plain old hanging out shooting the breeze with you, I am having a difficult time with many of the current discusions threads. There appears to be lots of Bravado and insensitive types who enjoy putting people down others as they can hide behind a screen name and do it annonomously. It is great to talk horses and disagree, but then we get into WWII discusions put downs by people who have no idea of what they speak, people putting people down by being obnoxious over and over. We should ignore the childish behavior but I thought I'd take a crack at trying to get the website forum back to its intended roots and thats to discuss horse racing, wagering, ownership, training, jockey's (another brilliant discussion HEY MY GUY GOMEZ WON ANOTHER 3 Races so I'm a Genious- Your Guy JOHNN V sux...)

I know you don't have time to police this, but as you read the site we get more into Bravado speak and less and less intelligent horse speak and handicapping discussions with merit.

Perhaps you can set aside a thread for the mindless discussions and monitor the users some to get this back to a civil discusion of points / counterpoints instead of put downs and insults. Or at least lets have one dedicated thread to intelligent discussion about horse racing and handicapping, which would be more of a reflection of the type of person and human being that I know that you are rather than what is running rampant throughout the site today. It's hard to weed out the good stuff from the crap anymore.

NC Tony

Nc Tony,
Quite frankly I'm stunned! You mean there others besides me who find guys who take the time to compile a list of all a guys losing mounts in a week, then when asked to cite one bad ride that the jockey gave, says oh I didn't see any of those.
The irony of morons like that posing as people who know anything about the game at all is not lost on me either.
What you have a is a bunch of guys who never start threads about anything, because they don't have any original thoughts or enough knowledge of the game to say anything worthwhile. What these guys do is read threads looking for fault with something that someone says. They contribute ZERO to the place yet try to assasinate others who do. They are the very worst type of trolls on the net, the kind who attempt to masquerade as non trolls. At least the trolls who come out and admit they are trolls have the guts to do that.
There is nothing more useless than folks who never have anything relevant or educational to say, who just sit around reading threads attempting to find fault with those who do.
But you can't blame Steve NC Tony, asking him to sit around all day long and monitor every thread is not reasonable.

[NoCarolinaTony]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Nc Tony,
Quite frankly I'm stunned! You mean there others besides me who find guys who take the time to compile a list of all a guys losing mounts in a week, then when asked to cite one bad ride that the jockey gave, says oh I didn't see any of those.
The irony of morons like that posing as people who know anything about the game at all is not lost on me either.
What you have a is a bunch of guys who never start threads about anything, because they don't have any original thoughts or enough knowledge of the game to say anything worthwhile. What these guys do is read threads looking for fault with something that someone says. They contribute ZERO to the place yet try to assasinate others who do. They are the very worst type of trolls on the net, the kind who attempt to masquerade as non trolls. At least the trolls who come out and admit they are trolls have the guts to do that.
There is nothing more useless than folks who never have anything relevant or educational to say, who just sit around reading threads attempting to find fault with those who do.
But you can't blame Steve NC Tony, asking him to sit around all day long and monitor every thread is not reasonable.

He would have to Ban People from the board. Repeat offenders should be banned. It's his board and he can do that. He has other monitors as well. If he wants, I could be his policeman.lol

NC Tony

[Pedigree Ann]

I know its unfashionable to bring up weights, but Sun King WAS getting some weight from Invasor at Saratoga. And Sun King's Woodward was quite a good run, considering that NOTHING was closing on that track that day. Remember also that Sun King was a nose behind the best sprinter/miler in NY in the Met Mile as well, so he is not lacking in quality.

Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann

I know its unfashionable to bring up weights, but Sun King WAS getting some weight from Invasor at Saratoga. And Sun King's Woodward was quite a good run, considering that NOTHING was closing on that track that day. Remember also that Sun King was a nose behind the best sprinter/miler in NY in the Met Mile as well, so he is not lacking in quality.

PA,
Sun King's style often makes him a bridesmaid. His races against Silver Train and Invasor were both sparkling efforts which would have netted him a win in one or both races in other years.
His last race was much better than it appeared. There was a strong, strong speed bias that day and his 3rd place effort, while seemingly mediocre, was better than that. he was the only horse in the race who made up any ground, period. He also had the right to be a tad bouncy off that huge Whitney.
I realize he only has two shots left, but I think one of those shots may be his shot, and many players have been quitely awaiting the opportunity off that last race to cash a ticket on him, or for him to at least split Invasor and Bernadini in the JCGC in the exacta.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by oracle80

I realize he only has two shots left, but I think one of those shots may be his shot, and many players have been quitely awaiting the opportunity off that last race to cash a ticket on him, or for him to at least split Invasor and Bernadini in the JCGC in the exacta.

Sun King is not running in the Jockey Club and who says he won't race next year?

i can't help but take a moment of my time to applaud the GREATEST horse ever to wear a saddle,
the one the only, winner of the JCGC, from a predetermined inside post, bernardini. (INVASOR will get the far most post, because after all we are dealing with new yorkers here, don't think so, just ask richard mandella what he thinks of the fairness of the track folks in new york when it comes to the draw and the positions world champion horses from out of state get assigned)

[1st_Saturday_in_May]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

This has to be a joke right? Has to be. No one could be this stupid right?

DaHoss, Blocky doenst joke around. He'll back this barely coherent and asinine post 100% whenever he returns. As for the 2nd part of your comment, I'm not going to come out and call the Blockinator 'stupid', but lets just say, you'd be surprised....