Just because you are pissed at the IRS,

[SOREHOOF]

I feel bad for this guy's family, and the families of those injured or killed. The guy was deranged to do this sh!t. I hate paying taxes as much as any red blooded American but I never blamed the IRS for having to pay taxes. I know people who work for the IRS. Good people who have all kinds of political views. Working to make a living, pay the bills, feed the kids. We heard all about this guy being a tea-bagging psycho. We heard all about the shooter at the Holocaust museum being a red neck white supremisist( howeverthefukitspelled), but the Fort Hood mass murderer can't be called a fanatical Islamic Jihadist killer? Don't want to offend anyone? Time to call a pig a pig. This guy was the ultimate Coward. Like all terrorists.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by SOREHOOF

I feel bad for this guy's family, and the families of those injured or killed. The guy was deranged to do this sh!t. I hate paying taxes as much as any red blooded American but I never blamed the IRS for having to pay taxes. I know people who work for the IRS. Good people who have all kinds of political views. Working to make a living, pay the bills, feed the kids. We heard all about this guy being a tea-bagging psycho. We heard all about the shooter at the Holocaust museum being a red neck white supremisist( howeverthefukitspelled), but the Fort Hood mass murderer can't be called a fanatical Islamic Jihadist killer? Don't want to offend anyone? Time to call a pig a pig. This guy was the ultimate Coward. Like all terrorists.

I agree with you. Unfortunately, this has combined the guilty until proven innocent method of the IRS, with a cowardly act of a deranged person. But just because one is unjustified, doesn't mean the other is.

[SOREHOOF]

Originally Posted by GBBob

I agree with you. Unfortunately, this has combined the guilty until proven innocent method of the IRS, with a cowardly act of a deranged person. But just because one is unjustified, doesn't mean the other is.

The law is the law. Unfortunately, everyone owes what they owe. Make an honest effort to pay it like most Americans. B!tching about it is one thing, going on a suicidal killing spree is quite another.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by SOREHOOF

The law is the law. Unfortunately, everyone owes what they owe. Make an honest effort to pay it like most Americans. B!tching about it is one thing, going on a suicidal killing spree is quite another.

I'm not sure if you have ever tried to deal with the IRS, even after they finally admit you are right, but it is a very tortuerous process. It's so easy to say just pay what you owe, but in reality, that isn't how it happens.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by GBBob

I'm not sure if you have ever tried to deal with the IRS, even after they finally admit you are right, but it is a very tortuerous process. It's so easy to say just pay what you owe, but in reality, that isn't how it happens.

The IRS is every man's nightmare! One hand doesn't know what the other is doing, 20,000 pages of tax law, new laws written every year, ever hear of VAT?

[SOREHOOF]

Flat tax would be better than VAT. With VAT you never really know how much of the listed price is tax.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by SOREHOOF

Flat tax would be better than VAT. With VAT you never really know how much of the listed price is tax.

FAIR tax is the way to go

[SOREHOOF]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

FAIR tax is the way to go

Amen.

[AeWingnut]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

just for the record no one at my work discussed this at all.

i hope if the conversation starts tomorrow it doesn't run along the lines here.

when you start sympathizing with people flying planes into buildings you've moved outside my comfort zone.

i guess i still need to get used to the idea that's a normal attitude.

no, they were not saying they agreed with flying a plane into the building
they agreed the IRS is abusive.

sorry you needed to take it another way

[AeWingnut]

Originally Posted by GBBob

I'm not sure if you have ever tried to deal with the IRS, even after they finally admit you are right, but it is a very tortuerous process. It's so easy to say just pay what you owe, but in reality, that isn't how it happens.

I have a friend that went into tax court and the judge sided with him. Not long after that, he gets another letter from the IRS saying pay up or else. it never ends.

he gets checks from them all the time and refuses to cash any of them.