Favorites get murdered in post draw

[VOL JACK]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Furthest Land at 20-1 is CRAZY.

Please dont F this play up for me.

[tiznowthegreat]

Originally Posted by brockguy

I think he is now too slow for a mile. While his early wins looks alright, his Irish 2000 Guineas win was in bottomless ground so it put such an emphasis on stamina rather than speed.

His best trip IMO is 10f. The usual rule of thumb for a turfer that I follow is that you want them running on the synthetics or dirt over a trip just further than their optimal (think Ravens Pass, Henrythenavigator, Giants Causeway etc)

He is a grinder to me, I can see him running the exact same type of race as Duke Of Marmalade (who was IMO, also dropping down from his optimal trip in the Classic last year). I will avoid him completely..

I would agree that a mile might not be his best trip but I don't think against these that he has to be at his best trip. Duke of Marmalade last year had been facing slightly better than what he faced in last years classic. I think Mastercraftsmen is facing MUCH worse than what he has been facing and what he beat earlier this year in a couple G1 at a mile. He probably is better at longer than a mile, but I do think he is good enough at a mile to handle these. I guess my main thought is that it seems like he doesn't have to be at his best trip to beat these.

[smuthg]

Originally Posted by Scav

Lookin at Lucky(Far outside), Goldikova(Far outside), Zensational(1 hole) and Mastercraftman(1 hole)

OUCH...

now Careless Jewel on the rail... WOW

[RockHardTen1985]

The dirt mile morning line is AS BAD AS IT GETS.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

The dirt mile morning line is AS BAD AS IT GETS.

Are you going to do an official RHT1985 picks thread.

I would really appreciate it if possible, and by tomorrow night also

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Scav

Are you going to do an official RHT1985 picks thread.

I would really appreciate it if possible, and by tomorrow night also

Im waiting for fridays card to be drawn... I will have all my pick 3's up within an hour after its posted on formulator.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Im waiting for fridays card to be drawn... I will have all my pick 3's up within an hour after its posted on formulator.

Waiting with baited breath.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Im waiting for fridays card to be drawn... I will have all my pick 3's up within an hour after its posted on formulator.

Outstanding...

[RockHardTen1985]

Visit is making me think INTERCONTINENTAL

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Visit is making me think INTERCONTINENTAL

I just threw up in my mouth.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

I just threw up in my mouth.

Stop, we both know you did not do that.
I dont really like her, Im just saying. Im only playing pick 3's, so I will use her with a few others.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Visit is making me think INTERCONTINENTAL

I think Juddmonte is more likely to see victory with Midday.