Big Brown WOW!!!!

[kelster]

BB showed today that he is legit, its nice that they keep running at least until the classic.

[Cannon Shell]

I thought that BB was very impressive today.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I thought that BB was very impressive today.

I did too, setting some strong fractions and cruising home, margin of victory wasn't huge but it looked to me like KD had it measured pretty well and didn't get after him late.
Unfortunately there's a lot of people on here drinking the haterade on him and probably would disagree on principle alone. FYI I bet against him today, incorrectly

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by philcski

I did too, setting some strong fractions and cruising home, margin of victory wasn't huge but it looked to me like KD had it measured pretty well and didn't get after him late.
Unfortunately there's a lot of people on here drinking the haterade on him and probably would disagree on principle alone. FYI I bet against him today, incorrectly

I am hardly a member of the BB adoration club but he ran really well under less than ideal circumstances against a legit field of older horses on a surface he hadnt run over in a long time. Obviously you couldnt take that price but the effort was strong.

[RollerDoc]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Could Curlin beat Proudinsky by a head? I'll go out on a limb and say yes.

The same guy who likes to call the class of 2008 "Pig" Brown.

[ELA]

There is no doubt that Big Brown, IEAH, and Dutrow are a "target" for criticism. That being said, I can certainly understand the supporters seeing "any" criticism as jaded and biased -- but I don't think that means that "all" criticism is neccessarily jaded and biased.

As far as being impressed, I was impressed with Big Brown in the Derby -- the way he did what he did, the ease in which he did what he did. Dutrow et al picked the 20, said what they were going to do, went out and did it. Period. Then, of course, will be the arguement that the crop is weak, he didn't beat anything, etc. That's another topic for another time.

Big Brown has accomplished a lot, no doubt. He's a very nice horse, a very good horse. Based upon what we've seen since the beginning of the year, and any jaded or biased opinions aside, I can also very much see someone not being "impressed" with how Big Brown did what he did today. Bad performance, no, certainly not. However, I can certainly the opinion that he didn't "live up to" some of the standards of what this horse allegedly was supposed to be -- a super-star, a very special horse, perhaps on of the greats to come along, etc.

Eric

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by RollerDoc

The same guy who likes to call the class of 2008 "Pig" Brown.

Have a sense of humor, it's tongue in cheek.

[RollerDoc]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Have a sense of humor, it's tongue in cheek.

My fault. You clearly have a sense of humor. You are a Jets fan

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by RollerDoc

My fault. You clearly have a sense of humor. You are a Jets fan

Zing.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Could Curlin beat Proudinsky by a head? I'll go out on a limb and say yes.

But could Curlin run down Coal Play too? Wait, is that even the name of the horse BB beat in the Haskell?

[King Glorious]

I for one was impressed. Not by the effort so much. It wasn't that great of a race. In fact, it was barely more than a good race. But for him to be able to win it, while finally facing good horses, was something that I was glad to see. It at least tells me that he was more than just the best horse of the sorriest 3yo crop I've ever seen. The horses he beat today weren't much but they were more than he's been facing. It's like the precocious high schooler that looks so dominant when facing his peers and everyone wants to see how he'll do when facing grown men. Well, BB wasn't facing an NBA all-star team out there today but it was a group of guys that have been decent college players. So that was something. It also enhances his stature for me because he has done it on both surfaces. I always give extra credit to those that are a little more versatile than others. I still don't think he's nearly as great as some others do and I still don't know if I'd say he's even a top five horse of this year but at least now I know he wasn't totally a product of his class.

[RollerDoc]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

I still don't think he's nearly as great as some others do and I still don't know if I'd say he's even a top five horse of this year but at least now I know he wasn't totally a product of his class.

None of the horses you put in your top five have faced Big Brown. His resume this year is better than all of your choices. To say he isn't in the top five this year is ludicrous.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by RollerDoc

None of the horses you put in your top five have faced Big Brown. His resume this year is better than all of your choices. To say he isn't in the top five this year is ludicrous.

To say he's the best horse of this year is criminal. So since none of them have faced him means that he's better than them? How about he's faced none of them either. His resume includes races that none of them were eligible for, save for Proud Spell. You are caught up in the names of the races but those races that Big Brown won were just horrible. HORRIBLE.

[sdjcom]

Not bad for Monmouth