Catty Madeline

[GPK]

someone please explain that one to me. How does she say up in the last at Belmont?


I had ZERO wagering interest in that race.

[robfla]

I think the guys on TVG said it best. She was the best horse in the race, why punish the owners, trainer, and bettors. Let the stewards deal with the jockey later on.

This is how it should be. Grant it, with the qestionable calls in the last week or so, its is hard to believe the stewards actually used logic.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by robfla

I think the guys on TVG said it best. She was the best horse in the race, why punish the owners, trainer, and bettors. Let the stewards deal with the jockey later on.

This is how it should be. Grant it, with the qestionable calls in the last week or so, its is hard to believe the stewards actually used logic.

so it's ok to punish the owners, trainer and bettors of Spa Princess? She was clearly knocked over 2-3 paths.

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by GPK

so it's ok to punish the owners, trainer and bettors of Spa Princess? She was clearly knocked over 2-3 paths.

if she's not the best horse then they're not really being punished. . .

[GPK]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

if she's not the best horse then they're not really being punished. . .

Was she given a fair chance to prove she was the best horse?

Again...Im just asking, as I had nothing invested in the race.

[hockey2315]

Either did I. . . but just in general, I'd like the stewards to take a hands-off approach.

[Bigsmc]

Originally Posted by robfla

I think the guys on TVG said it best. She was the best horse in the race, why punish the owners, trainer, and bettors. Let the stewards deal with the jockey later on.

This is how it should be. Grant it, with the qestionable calls in the last week or so, its is hard to believe the stewards actually used logic.

Kind of an irresponsible statement by the TVG (I didn't hear them myself, so I will take your word on this), I don't think we are asking the Stews to punish anybody. Just get it right.

As GPK said, there were other owners, trainers and horses being bet on in the race.

Just get it right and be consistent. That's not too much to ask is it?

[The Indomitable DrugS]

I thought it was a decent no call because it didn't impact the outcome - however, Margah basically made his own room and should get fined for that ride.

Margah rode like he was on bumper cars at an amusement park instead of race horses at Belmont in three different turf races yesterday. His ride on the 4th place finisher in the 5th race was textbook careless riding.

[SentToStud]

The stewards are taking the "it didn't impact the outcome" piece of their duty too far. There are far too many instance of this excuse being used. And the stewards can't state with certainty whether outcomes would be unaffected in a lot of these no-calls.

Take a look at Bemont's 7th on 5/24. In the stewards opinion, the outcome was not impacted. The 3rd, 4th,5th and 6th finishers were all close together and it is impossible to say the outcome was not impacted.

I suppose until a rider gets slammed head first into the rail while having a chance to win, my take on this is going to be pretty moot.

[the_fat_man]

Terrible ride by Maragh. Absolutely TERRIBLE!!! If he waits a second or so, the hole OPENS WIDE for him.

I think this horse needs to come down because not only does Maragh come out BUMPING the other horse, which would've been a good NO CALL, he also lays into her immediately after that, effectively fouling her TWICE.

Nice to see an interest in races (albeit a limited one). If this continues, perhaps the stewards will start feeling some of the pressure and get a bit more consistent.

[ontheoutside]

can you please explain to me how in the world they knock down admiral bird saturday
but keep up catty madeline sunday?
she knocked spa prinecess into the 5th eow of stands with one swoop
im telling you
they get worse and worse
and the baddest thing of them all is they dont have to explain there actions to any fan at all
i wonder how much they had on catty today?
and please,
dont have someone tell me they dont bet
theres so many ways to do it without anyone knowing it
what a disgrace they make this wonderfull sport

[Stall Mucker]

Originally Posted by ontheoutside

can you please explain to me how in the world they knock down admiral bird saturday
but keep up catty madeline sunday?
she knocked spa prinecess into the 5th eow of stands with one swoop
im telling you
they get worse and worse
and the baddest thing of them all is they dont have to explain there actions to any fan at all
i wonder how much they had on catty today?
and please,
dont have someone tell me they dont bet
theres so many ways to do it without anyone knowing it
what a disgrace they make this wonderfull sport

There is a website that has insight into what stewards look at and how they make decisions. I'll get it and post later.
Remember rules differ from track to track.

[Stall Mucker]

Originally Posted by ontheoutside

can you please explain to me how in the world they knock down admiral bird saturday
but keep up catty madeline sunday?
she knocked spa prinecess into the 5th eow of stands with one swoop
im telling you
they get worse and worse
and the baddest thing of them all is they dont have to explain there actions to any fan at all
i wonder how much they had on catty today?
and please,
dont have someone tell me they dont bet
theres so many ways to do it without anyone knowing it
what a disgrace they make this wonderfull sport

Stewards are NOT allowed to wager in the state of NY as well as many other juristictions.

[pick4]

Originally Posted by Stall Mucker

Stewards are NOT allowed to wager in the state of NY as well as many other juristictions.

The best horse in the race won the race. That being said the decision to keep this one on top is absurd. The stewards in New York are consistently inconsistent with their decisions.

[philcski]

The Admiral Bird DQ was a joke. I walked away from the tv at CD to watch the live race, came back to check the prices, to find out he'd been DQ'd. Was 5 deep in the p6, and didn't have the 11. Had the rest, of course.

[docicu3]

Originally Posted by philcski

The Admiral Bird DQ was a joke. I walked away from the tv at CD to watch the live race, came back to check the prices, to find out he'd been DQ'd. Was 5 deep in the p6, and didn't have the 11. Had the rest, of course.

I couldn't agree more but apparently was in the minority yesterday.....

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Stall Mucker

Stewards are NOT allowed to wager in the state of NY as well as many other juristictions.

Posters, however, are apparently allowed to drink.