BB had loose shoe

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

I live about 20 minutes from Monmouth and it gets F'N hot there. That ocean breeze is vastley overrated. Maybe they just want to run on a very speed biased track not called the graveyard of favorites. But Chuck is right, that tempertaure talk is just more lip service. Those ego-maniacs probably think that they are punishing NYRA because the track at Belmont was not up to BB's liking.
Come on Freddy, vanned off. That's a little harsh!

I meant Iavarone getting vanned off not the horse sorry... I live in Colts Neck pretty close the Monmouth as well

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Strategic Mission

His shoe problem didn't have anything to do with him coming up empty. Blame the heat or the missed trainer, but a loose shoe doesn't account for the empty tank. Horses win races without shoes all the time. The excuses are getting old. Maybe he just wasn't good enough to win a TC. All he needed was a 100 beyer and he couldn't even do that.

You are very fiesty today

[ELA]

Speaking of Monmouth -- that can be one tricky track.

Eric

[Strategic Mission]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

You are very fiesty today

Getting tired of IEAH and their snake oil salesman. Their comments and the fact that the media picks up on them is insulting to anyone with a brain.

It is like Michael Dickinson telling us every time a horse breaks down it is because the track was Tapeta. Give me a break.

What is really annoying is the media gives these snake oil salesman repeated free media to hype what they are selling.

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

These shoes never get loose

[2Hot4TV]

Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff

These shoes never get loose

LMAO

[rontheman1964]

Maybe they should check the horse for arsenic....and then give Dutrow a massive dose of it.....

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Strategic Mission

Getting tired of IEAH and their snake oil salesman. Their comments and the fact that the media picks up on them is insulting to anyone with a brain.

It is like Michael Dickinson telling us every time a horse breaks down it is because the track was Tapeta. Give me a break.

What is really annoying is the media gives these snake oil salesman repeated free media to hype what they are selling.

I hear ya but it is the way the "media" operates. We are just noticing it more because we understand the issues and can see the holes in the stories and the occasional complete untruth. I'm sure that other industries and business deal with the same crap.

I think this was a smart move by IEAH simply because it buys them some free, good press. Considering that they run in NY where Lasix is the only race day med used it sure is generous of them to give up all those other meds that they cant use anyway. Until they specifically name what drugs that they will be giving up and tsting for the whole thing is a joke yet the media will portray it as a positive and unknowing (or stupid) people will commend them and say that "you have to start somewhere" or " it is a first step" when it actually is simply lipservice.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by rontheman1964

Maybe they should check the horse for arsenic....and then give Dutrow a massive dose of it.....

If Dutrow has survived what he has put in himself so far I think arsenic wouldnt even scratch the surface

not hurt a bit if it got punched back in during the race?
ANd is this a common place for a loose shoe?
I thought Brown had a problems with clipping his backs
with the front. I realize there are a lot of other ways this
could have happened... but it this a common place?
Attachment 846

Never mind. Just read about it.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by pgardn

not hurt a bit if it got punched back in during the race?
ANd is this a common place for a loose shoe?
I thought Brown had a problems with clipping his backs
with the front. I realize there are a lot of other ways this
could have happened... but it this a common place?
Attachment 846

Never mind. Just read about it.

I dont know. Though I am fat I am not a horse.

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I dont know. Though I am fat I am not a horse.

Well....
Im glad you got that off your chest.

Anytime you need to let loose with any
more self-deprecating moments, I am here for
ya man. PM me if its too much for ya.

[ELA]

It's somewhat interesting that Iavarone was "looking" for reasons the horse didn't do what everyone expected -- now the shoe -- and Dutrow keeps saying "no" or "nothing wrong".

I like the last one where Dutrow said they (owner) can keep saying whatever they want, but I am going to keep saying there was nothing wrong with this horse -- or something along those lines.

Eric

[Danzig]

maybe he'll have an equine version of the zapruder film soon. surely da tara didn't act alone.


" desormeaux pulls him back and to the left...back and to the left...back..."

[ELA]

Originally Posted by Danzig

maybe he'll have an equine version of the zapruder film soon. surely da tara didn't act alone.


" desormeaux pulls him back and to the left...back and to the left...back..."

LOL. Like the Seinfeld episode . . . Now that is one magic loogie . . . LOL.


Eric

[Stall Mucker]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I have a loose tooth

Add it to the list.
Although you might pull it out and summon the tooth fairy.
It'll be worth more than any loosing BB tix.

[richard burch]

that picture says to me that it probably did have a negative effect on his race that day. it could have been 100% responsible since none of us knows what running with a loose horse shoe feels like....but it sure doesn't look comfortable.

i'll say the loose shoe was 35% responsible for his loss that day.

i would say it was 45 % jockey error for restraining him the first 1/4 mile.

and i think it was 20% "bounce"

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by richard burch

that picture says to me that it probably did have a negative effect on his race that day. it could have been 100% responsible since none of knows what a loose horse shoe feels like....but it sure doesn't look comfortable.

i'll say the loose shoe was 35% responsible for his loss that day.

i would say it was 45 % jockey error for restaing him the first 1/4 mile.

and i think it was 20% "bounce"

how do you come up with those figures? based on what? other horses have thrown shoes, had loose shoes, and won or hit the board. i think it was devils bag who pulled two loose in one race and still won.

[richard burch]

Originally Posted by Danzig

how do you come up with those figures? based on what? other horses have thrown shoes, had loose shoes, and won or hit the board. i think it was devils bag who pulled two loose in one race and still won.

i base that on...

none of us knows what running with a loose horse shoe feels like

and we never will.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by richard burch

i base that on...

none of us knows what running with a loose horse shoe feels like

and we never will.

well, that's true... i was just wondering what your %'s were based on-i'd say it was 100% not his day, rather than trying to break down what % was possibly based on what.