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Old 06-10-2008, 12:13 PM
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There is no book about betting strategy that, at this time, is going to help you at all. As you are currently, you can't be helped by anyone other than yourself. Once the entries for a race are even mentioned you have narrowed the race down to one or two horses. You are so phucked up with preconceptions that even if you are a capable handicapper you won't be able to see through the murk to make rational decisions.

You actually seem like a well meaning person, and I'm honestly being nice here, but until you even give yourself a chance to win you will continue to lose day after day. This is not to say that you will ever be able to win, but that's OK because you love the game and will get great enjoyment from playing, but you will learn to love playing even more when you clear your head and look at all the horses racing.
your right, i see horses who ran huge, or maybe that i have cashed on, or anything by giants causeway, and i use them... teach me to break this horrible habit, please
i think im addicted to giants causeway's i scan pp's everynight of tracks looking for anything by him, is that a problem ?
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Old 06-10-2008, 12:14 PM
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cause im never deep in the back end
That's not what I heard....
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Old 06-10-2008, 12:14 PM
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try re reading crist book..look up some beyer stuff some davidowitz....
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Old 06-10-2008, 12:15 PM
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try re reading crist book..look up some beyer stuff some davidowitz....
i am going to re read it, starting that tonight when i get out of work
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Old 06-10-2008, 12:18 PM
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your right, i see horses who ran huge, or maybe that i have cashed on, or anything by giants causeway, and i use them... teach me to break this horrible habit, please
i think im addicted to giants causeway's i scan pp's everynight of tracks looking for anything by him, is that a problem ?
wow
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Old 06-10-2008, 12:21 PM
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It could be that you're forcing yourself to go skinny towards the end of tickets. When putting together a pick four, sometimes it's tempting (especially for procrastinators) to go wide in the first few legs, while thinking "I'll just single later." A lot of times, that means you have to single a horse that shouldn't really be a single simply because you want to make the ticket affordable.

This is probably because you're glossing over the first few legs. Go back and see if you can narrow down in the early legs. Then reanalyze your single or skinny leg and see if you're forcing yourself to single a horse you don't love. If you do these things and come to the conclusion that there's no way you'll feel comfortable going one- or two-wide in any leg, PASS ON THE SEQUENCE. There will be plenty of other pick threes and fours to play, and choosing the right sequence will save and make you money.
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Old 06-10-2008, 12:38 PM
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wow
what ?
it is true, i normally look at cali main track ny main... kentucky and florida
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Old 06-10-2008, 12:40 PM
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It could be that you're forcing yourself to go skinny towards the end of tickets. When putting together a pick four, sometimes it's tempting (especially for procrastinators) to go wide in the first few legs, while thinking "I'll just single later." A lot of times, that means you have to single a horse that shouldn't really be a single simply because you want to make the ticket affordable.

This is probably because you're glossing over the first few legs. Go back and see if you can narrow down in the early legs. Then reanalyze your single or skinny leg and see if you're forcing yourself to single a horse you don't love. If you do these things and come to the conclusion that there's no way you'll feel comfortable going one- or two-wide in any leg, PASS ON THE SEQUENCE. There will be plenty of other pick threes and fours to play, and choosing the right sequence will save and make you money.
i do force myself all the time, i never want to get knocked out early.
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Old 06-10-2008, 12:40 PM
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i do force myself all the time, i never want to get knocked out early.
If that's the case, then you're looking for action, not trying to make money.
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Old 06-10-2008, 12:40 PM
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what ?
it is true, i normally look at cali main track ny main... kentucky and florida
i believe you - it's just strange. . .
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Old 06-10-2008, 12:42 PM
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If that's the case, then you're looking for action, not trying to make money.
i dont know ?
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Old 06-10-2008, 12:44 PM
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You would have found a nice little exacta in the 4th on Belmont day if you had used the Giant's Causeway underneath the favorite...
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Old 06-10-2008, 12:44 PM
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BET YOUR OPINION - leave your emotions and fear of losing out of it.
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Old 06-10-2008, 12:45 PM
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i dont know ?
You are. Read what you said again. "I never want to get knocked out early." Getting knocked out early and getting knocked out late is exactly the same if your primary goal is to make a profit.
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Old 06-10-2008, 12:46 PM
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You would have found a nice little exacta in the 4th on Belmont day if you had used the Giant's Causeway underneath the favorite...
i had the giants causeway on top.. at 11-1 and used him 3 deep in pick 3's along with jeremy rose horse, and garcias horse
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Old 06-10-2008, 12:50 PM
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If that's the case, then you're looking for action, not trying to make money.
Good Point!
When you go to OTB, do you handicap before you get there or do you do it on the fly? Also are you betting every race going off?
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Old 06-10-2008, 12:51 PM
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Good Point!
When you go to OTB, do you handicap before you get there or do you do it on the fly? Also are you betting every race going off?
i do it before, i have the drf.com thing unlimited basic pp's for any track all year
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Old 06-10-2008, 12:52 PM
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i do it before, i have the drf.com thing unlimited basic pp's for any track all year
impressive. . . that's like 800 bucks
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Old 06-10-2008, 01:01 PM
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impressive. . . that's like 800 bucks
im going to do something for you
cause i like you
i am pm you soon
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Old 06-10-2008, 01:03 PM
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im going to do something for you
cause i like you
i am pm you soon
nice..real nice
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