here it goes...

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

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yo for real your ****ed up... because when you pm'd me a while back i told you i was having problems with my fiance and thats why i did not post for about a month. so dont come on here and question me, when really you were the first one to know any of this, by about 6-8 weeks, i did not get into it with you , but i said im having big problems with my fiance.

[SentToStud]

Well, if you choose not to go the conventional route of seeking and heeding advice from a professional, a clergyman or various esteemed Derby Trail posters, you might want to read my latest book, Broads and Betting: When Babies and Booze Interfere.

You will find valuable insight which will probably lead to you learning:

1. You are probably happy with the situation or else you would be willing to try to change it. So, that's a plus.
2. It might help to take the kids to the track or OTB. I know it helped me.
3. It might be a good idea to stop making babies at this point. At least 'til you can determine, beyond a reasonable doubt, that the two you have can behave properly at the OTB.

[justindew]

Also, the sooner you accept that women are not normal people, the happier you will be.

[herkhorse]

Originally Posted by jcs11204

i am 23 years old.... i have 2 sons, 4 1/2 and 10 months old, there names are dominick and christian.... 1/12/04 and 8/13/07 are the bdays....
me and my x fiance had been together since 12 grade year of high school, she got pregnent right after and we stayed together and tryed making it work. no reasson to lie, we were not that close and if she did not get pregnent we would have more then likely never stayed together. on 1/12/08, my oldest sons birthday, she decided to end things, after 5 1/2 years. we agreed that i would stay living there to help with the kids, but i knew that was a impossible idea, and less then a month later i was gone. so now it has been almost 6 months, and it really hurts and sucks, i never thought i could care about anyone as much as i do her, and at this point i have no clue whats going to happen with us. one day she hates me, the next she is willing to work on things, i call her way to much... she says i push her away, then i stop and she gets mad that i dont call... i went from seeing my sons, everyday to now, maybe 2-3 times a week if i am lucky... that hurts bad. she says some mean things to me, things i could never imagine her saying, and she sometimes seems like shes totally done with me... she has changed so much in 6 months, she went from only wanting a family and only caring about me and the boys to what she is now.... she leaves are sons at home with her mom 2-3 times a week and goes out, shes drinking a little, and just making some bad decisions, including listening to hardcore rap music. its like the girl i loved for 5 years just hates me and has totally changed and i am having a real hard time dealing with it, honestly the only time i dont think about her is when i am at otb, even if im losing it just seems to relax me. still to this day i dont know the really reasson why we broke up, she is not the type to mess around, i know thats not it....she tells me it is lots of different reassons, and i just cant figure out how i should play it, i dont know if i should just back off, i am affraid if i do back off, that i will lose her forever... i dont know what to do

Dude, you are very brave for going here.The last one to try went running down the street with her tail between her legs. You have been lucky to recieve some good advice, and you may want to just take it and run. It's sure to go downhill from here. My $.02: You say you have had a normal childhood, but you have gambled all your life. Somethings not right there. Your relationship has very little chance IMO, but best of luck. Right now your main concern should be your kids. Instead of just "seeing" them 2-3 times a week, try to actually spend some real time with them. Using your sons birthdate as a moniker is not a substitute for real love. Give them some of you. Maybe just spend half the time that you do online here with them instead. You will all be better off for it.

[hockey2315]

I find it funny how so many people on here - a horse racing/gambling site - are warning him about the dangers of gambling. . .

[herkhorse]

There nothing wrong with gambling, but I don't think it't the best for kids

[onebadbeast]

Gambling Is Only A Problem When You Lose!!

Originally Posted by hockey2315

I find it funny how so many people on here - a horse racing/gambling site - are warning him about the dangers of gambling. . .

Experience...

[herkhorse]

I think I'll wait 'til my kids are at least 16 before I explain Crists Super Hi-5 ticket structuring. Though I have to admit I was taken back a bit when I turned on the Belmont yesterday and the first thing my 2 year old said was "oh is Big Truck running?" How she remembered him from Derby day is beyond me.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by herkhorse

I think I'll wait 'til my kids are at least 16 before I explain Crists Super Hi-5 ticket structuring. Though I have to admit I was taken back a bit when I turned on the Belmont yesterday and the first thing my 2 year old said was "oh is Big Truck running?" How she remembered him from Derby day is beyond me.

she watched the tb derby without you.

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Experience...

How would you know?

Originally Posted by hockey2315

How would you know?

Im old.

And went to Mexico to bet before racing was legal in Texas.
Mexico does not play fair btw.(cracks me up when people
think the payouts are wrong here)

[philcski]

Originally Posted by herkhorse

Dude, you are very brave for going here.The last one to try went running down the street with her tail between her legs. You have been lucky to recieve some good advice, and you may want to just take it and run. It's sure to go downhill from here. My $.02: You say you have had a normal childhood, but you have gambled all your life. Somethings not right there. Your relationship has very little chance IMO, but best of luck. Right now your main concern should be your kids. Instead of just "seeing" them 2-3 times a week, try to actually spend some real time with them. Using your sons birthdate as a moniker is not a substitute for real love. Give them some of you. Maybe just spend half the time that you do online here with them instead. You will all be better off for it.

I'm pretty damned normal and I've gambled all my life

[herkhorse]

Originally Posted by philcski

I'm pretty damned normal and I've gambled all my life

If your talking marbles or something I understand, but if your betting cash before you're 10, I don't know. There are exceptions to every rule.

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by herkhorse

If your talking marbles or something I understand, but if your betting cash before your 10, I don't know. There are exceptions to every rule.

what is cash ? i went through a stage a few years ago where i fired hard....HARD... now i bet maybe 300-400 on big race days... 100 on a normal weekend, and maybe a pick 3 or 4 here and there during the week... t

[TheSpyder]

Although my mom took me to the track when I was seven and gave me a few dollars to bet on horses a couple times, I didn't start really going to the track until I was 14 when I would skip school and hitch to the Big T about 3-4 times a week. By 15 I was there just about every day.

So I guess I'm OK.

Spyder

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Cash is money. We use it to purchase things, gamble, etc. Not to be confused with funny money or monopoly money which is what you use.

i almost feel bad for you... to be so lifeless !!!

[philcski]

Originally Posted by herkhorse

If your talking marbles or something I understand, but if your betting cash before your 10, I don't know. There are exceptions to every rule.

We used to bet horses, football games, college basketball, you name it by the time I was in 7th grade. I remember one of the first things we did every monday morning at school was buy the Post and find out the line on the upcoming Bills game

[Samarta]

Originally Posted by jcs11204

i am 23 years old.... i have 2 sons, 4 1/2 and 10 months old, there names are dominick and christian.... 1/12/04 and 8/13/07 are the bdays....
me and my x fiance had been together since 12 grade year of high school, she got pregnent right after and we stayed together and tryed making it work. no reasson to lie, we were not that close and if she did not get pregnent we would have more then likely never stayed together. on 1/12/08, my oldest sons birthday, she decided to end things, after 5 1/2 years. we agreed that i would stay living there to help with the kids, but i knew that was a impossible idea, and less then a month later i was gone. so now it has been almost 6 months, and it really hurts and sucks, i never thought i could care about anyone as much as i do her, and at this point i have no clue whats going to happen with us. one day she hates me, the next she is willing to work on things, i call her way to much... she says i push her away, then i stop and she gets mad that i dont call... i went from seeing my sons, everyday to now, maybe 2-3 times a week if i am lucky... that hurts bad. she says some mean things to me, things i could never imagine her saying, and she sometimes seems like shes totally done with me... she has changed so much in 6 months, she went from only wanting a family and only caring about me and the boys to what she is now.... she leaves are sons at home with her mom 2-3 times a week and goes out, shes drinking a little, and just making some bad decisions, including listening to hardcore rap music. its like the girl i loved for 5 years just hates me and has totally changed and i am having a real hard time dealing with it, honestly the only time i dont think about her is when i am at otb, even if im losing it just seems to relax me. still to this day i dont know the really reasson why we broke up, she is not the type to mess around, i know thats not it....she tells me it is lots of different reassons, and i just cant figure out how i should play it, i dont know if i should just back off, i am affraid if i do back off, that i will lose her forever... i dont know what to do

I haven't read all the responses and I don't need to to respond. This is as straight forward as I can be. Your issue is about one thing and one thing only....the well being of those kids. This isn't about you and your relationship. Whether you deal with it with family, a therapist, or the court system the welfare of those babies is the only thing you should consider. But you need to deal with it before someone deals with it for you. If she says one day she wants you and the next day she doesn't...guess what? She doesn't, she's just keeping you around for convenience. I could go on and on but I will only say forget the relationship and take care of those kids. If you don't they will be grown and gone before you know it and you will be sitting around trying to figure out where all the years went.