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Old 05-24-2008, 10:31 AM
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trip replay work is very beneficial but its extremely time consuming and its not as simple as one may think. The type of trouble that most people think is important is not important at all, for example horses getting boxed in or bad breaks, everyone sees that trouble and its often times called out in the running lines, no value there. I think a successful handicapping book would include a detailed chapter on doing replay work along with a dvd in the back that could be used as a tool.

If time is a consideration then I would suggest teaming up with one or two individuals and sharing to cut down work, but you have to trust the opinion of the person you are sharing with. Its pretty easy to do with programs like formulator or bris.
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Old 05-24-2008, 07:35 AM
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Am I the only one that struggles with this at times? How many times will you watch the same race? I find it difficult to closely watch more than 1 or 2 horses at a time. Sometimes I have to watch the replay multiple times and just concentrate on only one horse at a time to get a full understanding of their respective trip. Anyone else have the same problem? Any advice on how to better watch replays?
I try to tape some of the replay shows with my tivo. It is so easy to rewind and fast foward, plus it even has a slow mo feature. It like it so much better than the computer, the only downside is that you only get the replay that they show on the tv. On the computer sometimes you can get the head on's.
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Old 05-24-2008, 08:51 AM
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Cheating is a problem, no doubt, but leaning on it like a crutch to explain away your handicapping inefficiencies is a bigger crime. It's always easy to blame someone other than yourself for losing. However, doing so will not stem the tide of defeat.
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Old 05-24-2008, 09:28 AM
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Cheating is a problem, no doubt, but leaning on it like a crutch to explain away your handicapping inefficiencies is a bigger crime. It's always easy to blame someone other than yourself for losing. However, doing so will not stem the tide of defeat.
I'm not blaming anybody for anything. I am speaking generally about the situation out here. Like any other crooks, people are looking for a situation where people's attention is distracted. That's when they act. When it favors them the most. In a series of horizontal races, handicapping is overrated.My biggest payoffs have come from handicapping two races, and not handicapping the third race of a sequence.
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Old 05-24-2008, 09:30 AM
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I don't watch replays. I figure I'd leave some money in the pools for you guys.
































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Old 05-24-2008, 10:17 PM
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Cheating is a problem, no doubt, but leaning on it like a crutch to explain away your handicapping inefficiencies is a bigger crime. It's always easy to blame someone other than yourself for losing. However, doing so will not stem the tide of defeat.
Excellent point. I think this is a far greater occurence than many think -- owners, trainers, and bettors. Conversation for another time.

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Old 05-24-2008, 10:14 PM
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Am I the only one that struggles with this at times? How many times will you watch the same race? I find it difficult to closely watch more than 1 or 2 horses at a time. Sometimes I have to watch the replay multiple times and just concentrate on only one horse at a time to get a full understanding of their respective trip. Anyone else have the same problem? Any advice on how to better watch replays?
I don't know where you are watching them, but I would watch them from every angle I can (yes, seems obvious). I would also watch more than one replay. If you are looking at a specific horse, go back and watch many of his starts, take note if you are seeing something, a pattern, a characteristic, etc. I do this a lot -- betting, claiming, etc. (with claiming, I am putting up a lot more money on a race, LOL).

I watch replays several times, and sometimes it's neccessary. You easily miss things.

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