Will I get 2-1?

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Yes, you'll get 2-1.

Most likely winner? I laughed.

This is coming from the same moron who said in another post that the economy is fine.

[justindew]

Originally Posted by stonegossard

This is coming from the same moron who said in another post that the economy is fine.

I keep forgetting that when gas prices are high, the economy is automatically bad.

5% unemployment.

Dow above 13,000.

Median household income up year-over-year, every year.

Yep, sounds horrible.

[justindew]

Originally Posted by stonegossard

This is coming from the same moron who said in another post that the economy is fine.

Also, the fact that you think I actually believe that Casino Drive is the most likely winner proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that you are the moron.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by stonegossard

This is coming from the same moron who said in another post that the economy is fine.

Ummmmmmmmmm


I think you got DaHoss confused with that PA guy.

[justindew]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Well, you had a lot of people fooled man. That's why i was busting your balls about the Street Sense stuff.

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22568

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by justindew

I keep forgetting that when gas prices are high, the economy is automatically bad.

5% unemployment.

Dow above 13,000.

Median household income up year-over-year, every year.

Yep, sounds horrible.

If you take that figure at face value, you're the definition of a sap.

[justindew]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

If you take that figure at face value, you're the definition of a sap.

Well, people who are a lot smarter than I am take those numbers at face value.

http://data.bls.gov/PDQ/servlet/Surv...id=LNS14000000

I love it when people make broad statements like "you're the definition of a sap" and then provide zero evidence to back up the claim. It's a classic method of argumentation for someone who has no argument.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by justindew

Well, people who are a lot smarter than I am take those numbers at face value.

http://data.bls.gov/PDQ/servlet/Surv...id=LNS14000000

I love it when people make broad statements like "you're the definition of a sap" and then provide zero evidence to back up the claim. It's a classic method of argumentation for someone who has no argument.

I figured you might be smart enough to know why that figure is bullshit, but I guess not.

The number doesn't include people who are unemployed and have stopped looking for work, only people who are still receiving unemployment benefits.

Therefore, it doesn't count the disillusioned and hopeless unemployed, which, considering the economy, is probably a substantial and growing amount of people.

[justindew]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

I figured you might be smart enough to know why that figure is bullshit, but I guess not.

The number doesn't include people who are unemployed and have stopped looking for work, only people who are still receiving unemployment benefits.

Therefore, it doesn't count the disillusioned and hopeless unemployed, which, considering the economy, is probably a substantial and growing amount of people.

Fine.

5.1%.

Happy?

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by justindew

Fine.

5.1%.

Happy?

Nice to see that you haven't abandoned your usual tactics of deflection in carrying the BTH torch.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

I figured you might be smart enough to know why that figure is bullshit, but I guess not.

The number doesn't include people who are unemployed and have stopped looking for work, only people who are still receiving unemployment benefits.

Therefore, it doesn't count the disillusioned and hopeless unemployed, which, considering the economy, is probably a substantial and growing amount of people.

Tell them there are plenty of jobs available at keeneland since the SWAT team ran everybody out of there today.

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by justindew

I keep forgetting that when gas prices are high, the economy is automatically bad.

5% unemployment.

Dow above 13,000.

Median household income up year-over-year, every year.

Yep, sounds horrible.

LOL...Dow above 13000....thats funny. I guess the drop from 14k to 13k isnt bad. How much is The DJIA up this year?

I guess food prices going through the roof and gas prices getting out of hand are good also. Ask people who own restaurants how things are going.

The real estate market is great also huh? People walking away from their homes because they cant pay the mortgage...economy is fine

Tons of people losing jobs on Wall St....thats great also...

No worries at all...economy is fine.


You sir are an idiot of the highest degree.

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by justindew

Also, the fact that you think I actually believe that Casino Drive is the most likely winner proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that you are the moron.

Then why do you post this crap. Do you enjoy acting like a moron. If so continue.


Usually when people post on and on about something I tend to think they mean it.

[wac]

Is there anyway for people in Japan to bet on the race? I have no idea so if its a stupid ? im sorry. Reason i ask is that those people bet with both fists. I remember couple of years ago there was a horse from Japan in the Arc and he went off at like 2-5 i think. Horse was good but i didn't think he was that good. Even so still think he wont go off at higher then CD goes off at higher then 4-1 if not 7-2

[justindew]

Originally Posted by stonegossard

LOL...Dow above 13000....thats funny. I guess the drop from 14k to 13k isnt bad. How much is The DJIA up this year?

I guess food prices going through the roof and gas prices getting out of hand are good also. Ask people who own restaurants how things are going.

The real estate market is great also huh? People walking away from their homes because they cant pay the mortgage...economy is fine

Tons of people losing jobs on Wall St....thats great also...

No worries at all...economy is fine.


You sir are an idiot of the highest degree.

Again, perspective.

Look a at chart of the Dow for the last 5 years. Or the last 10. Or the last 15.

So, the fact that restaurant owners are struggling means the overall economy is bad? Interesting.

Also, we feed the world, in case you didn't know. When food prices go up worldwide, we win.

Interesting logic regarding the housing market. Since a small percentage of people who bought homes that they can't afford are having to become renters (which they should have been all along) instead of owners, the overall economy is bad?

Take an Econ 101 class.

[justindew]

Originally Posted by stonegossard

Then why do you post this crap. Do you enjoy acting like a moron. If so continue.


Usually when people post on and on about something I tend to think they mean it.

I honestly didn't think that making blantantly ridiculous statements about Casino Drive in the tradition of Better Than Honour would confuse so many people, especially since I announced to the board that I was doing that very thing and then gave myself a Japanese flag avatar.

My bad.

For the record, I DO think Casino Drive can win.

[justindew]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I honestly think the confusion was, after the Zanjero and Street Sense stuff, I didn't think it was that far fetched that you would think Casino Drive was most likely. Looks like I wasn't alone.

Considering Zanjero was less than a length from winning a Grade I already, and considering the relative weakness of the handicap division, what exactly is so ridiculous about me betting the he can win a Grade I at 10-1 odds?

Trust me, I was not alone in thinking that Street Sense was done after the Preakness. There were columns written by respected turf writers that predicted the same thing.

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by justindew

Again, perspective.

Look a at chart of the Dow for the last 5 years. Or the last 10. Or the last 15.

So, the fact that restaurant owners are struggling means the overall economy is bad? Interesting.

Also, we feed the world, in case you didn't know. When food prices go up worldwide, we win.

Interesting logic regarding the housing market. Since a small percentage of people who bought homes that they can't afford are having to become renters (which they should have been all along) instead of owners, the overall economy is bad?

Take an Econ 101 class.

I'll take an econ class when you take your head out of your A##. Yes over a ten year period the dow has gone up genius. What does that have to do with the economy in 2008. You do know there have been periods over the last 10 yrs when it has gone down within that 10 yr period. The restaurant example was ONE thing. I can give you a ton more. All the retailers are reporting horrible results. CPI/PPI are coming in very high (Your beloved dow is down 190 points today based on disappointment from Home Depot and a hot PPI number...oil now past 129). Take a look at recession proof businesses like Las Vegas/Casinos...they are reporting the worst numbers in years. Their businesses are getting hammered because the economy is not in good shape.

We feed the world? LOL....nice try. Please explain to me how the cost of a weekly trip to the supermarket for the average family has gone up 60%. How is this good ? Here is an article form a month ago...when oil was 15 bucks a barrel cheeper/commodities were cheaper than today.....things have gotten much worse since

http://www.nypost.com/seven/04162008...ock_106752.htm

Do you think the current housing situation is good for the economy? Would love to hear that explanation Einstein. I suppose the whole CDO debacle was great for the big investment banks also?


Go back to making posts about horses you think who are a lock but really cant win.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by stonegossard

I'll take an econ class when you take your head out of your A##. Yes over a ten year period the dow has gone up genius. What does that have to do with the economy in 2008. You do know there have been periods over the last 10 yrs when it has gone down within that 10 yr period. The restaurant example was ONE thing. I can give you a ton more. All the retailers are reporting horrible results. CPI/PPI are coming in very high (Your beloved dow is down 190 points today based on disappointment from Home Depot and a hot PPI number...oil now past 129). Take a look at recession proof businesses like Las Vegas/Casinos...they are reporting the worst numbers in years. Their businesses are getting hammered because the economy is not in good shape.

We feed the world? LOL....nice try. Please explain to me how the cost of a weekly trip to the supermarket for the average family has gone up 60%. How is this good ? Here is an article form a month ago...when oil was 15 bucks a barrel cheeper/commodities were cheaper than today.....things have gotten much worse since

http://www.nypost.com/seven/04162008...ock_106752.htm

Do you think the current housing situation is good for the economy? Would love to hear that explanation Einstein. I suppose the whole CDO debacle was great for the big investment banks also?


Go back to making posts about horses you think who are a lock but really cant win.

Not to mention, one of the best indicators of economic health- the old treasury long bonds- are up 13 points off their lows in the last year (and at one point in march, were up 22 points), because nobody wants to hold risky assets in this environment... but the American economy is great

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

The most likely winner by far is Big Brown.

I read a really hilarious post the other day. Someone said, "Now its a matter of whether or not (Big Brown) can handle Casino Drive."

Ha. It's more of a, "Can Casino Drive handle Big Brown?"

It's neither. It's who likes the surface,and 12f. That's the only that matters. If they both like it,then you can worry about who the better horse is. Usually, there is one horse in the race who likes both of those two things. People usually make fun of him(if he wasn't the favorite.) Not that many horses like this race. If Brown likes the surface, and 12f, then we will have a T.C. Winner. If he doesn't like it, then whoever does like it will get by. They don't have to be that good, either. They just have to like it.