RUMOR: "SA at Del Mar"?

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by The Bid

Steve

If that was infact true would Del Mar have wanted it back after the meet? They tried to loan their Polytrack to Santa Anita? Racing in California is now BYOS, bring your own synthetic. How far the game has come.

Is that the nuttiest thing you've ever heard or isn't it? I was dumbstruck. Can't you can hear a truck driver calling the Santa Anita switchboard? "Uh. hi.. I got the racetrack here in 14 trucks... Where do you want it?"

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Is that the nuttiest thing you've ever heard or isn't it? I was dumbstruck. Can't you can hear a truck driver calling the Santa Anita switchboard? "Uh. hi.. I got the racetrack here in 14 trucks... Where do you want it?"

I thought it crazy, too, until I remembered that Santa Anita's problem was small sand in their cushion clogging their drainage ... did they not heavily test the draininge, like Keeneland did? with the first section of track laid? Sounds like a free new cushion from the manufacturer to me (I read the complaints SA had about the manufacturer not being immediately responsive to their problems with the installation)

Anyway, so I suppose if SA has the base, they can put another cushion down over it - maybe it's not so whacky a rumor?

[ddthetide]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Is that the nuttiest thing you've ever heard or isn't it? I was dumbstruck. Can't you can hear a truck driver calling the Santa Anita switchboard? "Uh. hi.. I got the racetrack here in 14 trucks... Where do you want it?"

if it's that bad a shape how hard is it to just go back to dirt and be ready to run a week late??

[BillW]

Originally Posted by ddthetide

if it's that bad a shape how hard is it to just go back to dirt and be ready to run a week late??

It's not the surface, but the cushion underneath that has been clogged by sand that is too fine.

[ddthetide]

Originally Posted by BillW

It's not the surface, but the cushion underneath that has been clogged by sand that is too fine.

then there is no "quick" fix. sounds like take it all out and start over. stay at hollywood or go to delmar.

[BillW]

Originally Posted by ddthetide

then there is no "quick" fix. sounds like take it all out and start over. stay at hollywood or go to delmar.

Or just hope that no drainage is needed during the meet.

[2 Dollar Bill]

Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch

maybe one day we'll have an Oak Tree at Santa Anita at Del Mar meet.

Didnt that American League Baseball team do that kind of name thing allready ?

[The Bid]

Steve

Its absolutely insane. The CHRB should be ashamed of themselves for madating synthetics. The uppercrust at these tracks should be humiliated that they didnt have enough forethought to test it. How can the track execs be so dumb? Why would anyone who created any synthetic not sell it as all weather and perfect? Why would anyone buying it not ask more questions and have a team of scientists check it?

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by The Bid

Steve

Its absolutely insane. The CHRB should be ashamed of themselves for madating synthetics. The uppercrust at these tracks should be humiliated that they didnt have enough forethought to test it. How can the track execs be so dumb? Why would anyone who created any synthetic not sell it as all weather and perfect? Why would anyone buying it not ask more questions and have a team of scientists check it?

hollypark and delmar seem to have made the transition with minimal difficulty.

i suppose we'll have to wait for the next storm to see how the santa anita track drains with the changes made. but it looks like opening day goes forward.

i'm not sure how one "tests" a track other than what has happened here. you install it. you find problems. you work to fix them. it isn't like racetracks are uniform. what works at one will need to be tweaked at another.

there will be issues with any change. i'm sure there will be more issues as the long meet progresses.

take a chill pill. wait for the meet to start. then pile on if it's warrented.

[The Bid]

So you dont think the "scientists" and "experts" should have known what kind of wax and sand to lay down? Tearing a track up months after its layed isnt a tweaking, its a disgrace. I suppose having an entire surface dismantled isnt a good enough reason to bash them. The track was uneven and causing mass injuries, besides the lack of drainage.

I think its fair to say they really dont know what they are doing with these surfaces. Along with the breakdown rate remaining the same, the uneven surface, the unhappy horsemen, what are the benefits? I guess they have been pretty easy to take care of which was the number one selling point

[Cannon Shell]

I am shocked that a Magna track could have problems that no one else seems to have. First losing money with slot machines and now this! Frank should fire the complacent bastard that oversaw this debacle. Those Magna execs have just been there too long, they just aren't hungry anymore.

[Pedigree Ann]

Originally Posted by Echo Farm

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[2Hot4TV]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I am shocked that a Magna track could have problems that no one else seems to have. First losing money with slot machines and now this! Frank should fire the complacent bastard that oversaw this debacle. Those Magna execs have just been there too long, they just aren't hungry anymore.

Now thats funny. Does Frank keep anybody longer than 2 years?

[2Hot4TV]

The Main track at Santa Anita is open for training this morning.

[ALostTexan]

Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV

The Main track at Santa Anita is open for training this morning.

Yeah, but it doesn't mean it will be open for long. Doesn't sound likey they are too optimistic that it will drain correctly over time...

Santa Anita Opens for Training

Ron Charles, president of Santa Anita, stood at Clocker’s Corner watching horses go by as several trainers gave him a thumbs up on the surface. Charles said that the track is draining better, but he is continuing to consult experts in an effort to improve the drainage.


“Even though it’s not draining to specifications, it has improved and we’re hoping that will remain so,” Charles said. “The horsemen have been so patient, which we have really appreciated.”

[2Hot4TV]

Originally Posted by ALostTexan

Yeah, but it doesn't mean it will be open for long. Doesn't sound likey they are too optimistic that it will drain correctly over time...

Santa Anita Opens for Training

It don't rain in California !!!!!!

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by The Bid

So you dont think the "scientists" and "experts" should have known what kind of wax and sand to lay down? Tearing a track up months after its layed isnt a tweaking, its a disgrace. I suppose having an entire surface dismantled isnt a good enough reason to bash them. The track was uneven and causing mass injuries, besides the lack of drainage.

I think its fair to say they really dont know what they are doing with these surfaces. Along with the breakdown rate remaining the same, the uneven surface, the unhappy horsemen, what are the benefits? I guess they have been pretty easy to take care of which was the number one selling point

i'm happy with my take so far.

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I am shocked that a Magna track could have problems
that no one else seems to have.

And Keeneland or Del Mar do not have a bias problem?

Nor a credibility problem with many of their race results?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by The_Knight_Sky

And Keeneland or Del Mar do not have a bias problem?

Nor a credibility problem with many of their race results?

If you wish to compare the management "problems" of Keeneland and Del Mar to Magna then be my guest.

Biases are not problems, not being able to safely use one's new 10 million dollar track is a problem.