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Old 09-28-2007, 10:04 AM
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I'd love to see Street Sense win this race but I think Hard Spun is going to win. This is not Nafzger's target so SS doesn't need to be all out to win. I think the order will be:

Hard Spun by a rapidly closing length
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i think you may have the order nailed. welcome to an $8 trifecta.
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Old 09-28-2007, 10:23 AM
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i think you may have the order nailed. welcome to an $8 trifecta.
yeah, but I'll also put a ticket together with Muqbil in 3rd position and hope he gets there, that should pay more.
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Old 09-28-2007, 02:48 PM
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Here is the deal on added money:
The base purse for the KC Classic is $350,000, with $150,000 of that for horses eligible to the Kentucky Thoroughbred Development Fund. Of the five starters, only Hard Spun, a Pennsylvania-bred, is ineligible to the KTDF. However, another $150,000 is being offered to the winner if he is a Grade 1 winner in 2006-07. Only Street Sense and Hard Spun are eligible for the bonus.
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Old 09-29-2007, 01:21 PM
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Damn, heard this morning that they are not offering a show bet on the race. Thought the bridge jumpers could have a hayday on this one...
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Old 09-29-2007, 01:39 PM
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Actually, according to the Turfway website, they are going to offer a Super on the Classic? On a 5-horse field???

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Old 09-29-2007, 01:45 PM
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Actually, according to the Turfway website, they are going to offer a Super on the Classic? On a 5-horse field???

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Muqbil was scratched...now down to 4
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Old 09-29-2007, 01:48 PM
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Muqbil was scratched...now down to 4
on the bright side, they're still offering trifecta wagering.
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Old 09-29-2007, 04:52 PM
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BORING!!!!! Congrats to Hard Spun!
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Old 09-29-2007, 04:53 PM
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BORING!!!!! Congrats to Hard Spun!
Any race recap for those of us stuck at work?
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Old 09-29-2007, 04:54 PM
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Any race recap for those of us stuck at work?
Hard Spun and Street Sense ran one two all the way around on a slow pace.
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Old 09-29-2007, 04:54 PM
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Hard Spun takes the lead early, holds off a far-turn move from Street Sense, digs in again in the stretch and wins by a length.
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Old 09-29-2007, 04:56 PM
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Hard Spun takes the lead early, holds off a far-turn move from Street Sense, digs in again in the stretch and wins by a length.
They shouldn't even allow races like this....
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Old 09-29-2007, 04:57 PM
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Well there goes any value on Hard Spun in the Classic and any chance he'll be allowed a real easy unpressured lead in the Classic.

Back to the drawing board for that race.
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Old 09-29-2007, 04:58 PM
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Horse Racing. It's Fan-F>>>>>g-tastic.
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Old 09-29-2007, 05:06 PM
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Being a European, i didn't mind watching that tactical battle..... most people saw that it was going to happen like that, but why didn't Borel really take Hard Spun on early? Force him a bit, ya know?

As soon as it was turned into a 'sprint' there was only going to be one winner.

Over here, Borel would have been blamed for giving Hard Spun such an easy lead.
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Old 09-29-2007, 05:12 PM
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Being a European, i didn't mind watching that tactical battle..... most people saw that it was going to happen like that, but why didn't Borel really take Hard Spun on early? Force him a bit, ya know?

As soon as it was turned into a 'sprint' there was only going to be one winner.

Over here, Borel would have been blamed for giving Hard Spun such an easy lead.
His ride on Blackberry Road in the Juvenile was nothing short of embarrassing.
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Old 09-29-2007, 05:19 PM
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but why didn't Borel really take Hard Spun on early? Force him a bit, ya know?

As soon as it was turned into a 'sprint' there was only going to be one winner.

Over here, Borel would have been blamed for giving Hard Spun such an easy lead.
I think what Street Sense did was the intent of Nafzger and Co. They wanted SS to put in a sustained run, challenge and finish strong. He's said such a result would "get him towards where he needs to be for Monmouth" (or something like that).

Now, I suppose SS did get out of this race what they wanted. However, I would have preferred to see him battle harder down to the wire versus spit it a bit in the final 100 yards. SS has shown us he hangs a bit (Preakness, Travers) and now he didn't give that extra punch late in this spot.

I'm not sold on him for the BC.
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Old 09-29-2007, 05:22 PM
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Why force him, when it was just a prep for the big picture? I think it was pretty obvious, like you said, what was going to happen in the race. What would Street Sense get out of moving earlier than he usually does and go after a loose on the lead pretty good horse? It was a perfect prep. Right on target.
I know what you're saying, but would it have taken that much more out of him if he had just bustled Hard Spun up a little. To make him go those few strides quicker than he would prefer?

Borel got very 'busy' in the saddle in the stretch, and gave SS a few sharp smacks behind the saddle. Why get so busy late on when the race was all but lost?

I don't think Borel had the best of days today, that's all i'm saying. I could understand him laying off SS early and just doing the bar minimum to finish second, but to lay off him early and then get really serious close home when the race is lost? It just seemed a little strange.
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Old 09-29-2007, 05:27 PM
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I think what Street Sense did was the intent of Nafzger and Co. They wanted SS to put in a sustained run, challenge and finish strong. He's said such a result would "get him towards where he needs to be for Monmouth" (or something like that).

Now, I suppose SS did get out of this race what they wanted. However, I would have preferred to see him battle harder down to the wire versus spit it a bit in the final 100 yards. SS has shown us he hangs a bit (Preakness, Travers) and now he didn't give that extra punch late in this spot.

I'm not sold on him for the BC.
I'm with you there.

As i said before, Borel really asked him in the closing stages, and in my opinion there was little response from the horse.

There is no doubt he will be 100 times better with a stronger gallop, but his style of racing will always make things difficult in a very good race with plenty of runners.

I thought Hard Spun would win today, but i was still disappointed with Street Sense.
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Old 09-29-2007, 05:30 PM
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His ride on Blackberry Road in the Juvenile was nothing short of embarrassing.
he killed that horses chance by getting him buried on the rail.
the horse was full of run once he got free.
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