The MassCap

[miraja2]

The funny thing of course is that Evening Attire has run in this race before....and finished second......behind Macho Uno. That is how long this old guy has been running.
I think Funny Cide finished second in this race a few years ago too....but I can't remember who won that year.

[SniperSB23]

Shouldn't we all be cheering for a Fairbanks blowout victory in a 110+ Beyer to draw a lot of money come BC Day on a horse we will all toss? And really it isn't that farfetched, the field sucks and the figure makers won't be afraid to give him a good figure if he wins big again against another field that sucks.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Shouldn't we all be cheering for a Fairbanks blowout victory in a 110+ Beyer to draw a lot of money come BC Day on a horse we will all toss? And really it isn't that farfetched, the field sucks and the figure makers won't be afraid to give him a good figure if he wins big again against another field that sucks.

Even if he crushes,will he really draw a lot of money in the BC?

Of course, if he opts for the Dirt Mile, it might be a different story...

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Even if he crushes,will he really draw a lot of money in the BC?

Of course, if he opts for the Dirt Mile, it might be a different story...

He won't be a favorite but even if he draws 8-1 or 10-1 we just need another horse or two to feel solid in having already beat the takeout.

Oh, and people are overrating the draw of the Dirt Mile, it will be Corinthian, Wanderin Boy, and a bunch of other horses that want nothing to do with 10 furlongs or 6.

[RolloTomasi]

Fair enough. As far as Corinthian goes, is he really a horse with distance limitations or did he just go horribly off form in the Suburban? In that respect, if he doesn't improve, he should be no count in the Dirt Mile, too.

I didn't see his Woodward, but I think I read that he made a middle move and hung, so maybe he's also just not that good.

He hung, but Lawyer Ron looked like he was on a bullet train compared to the rest of them in that field. Its not fair to look at that race and say he "hung". He put in a nice move, but it wasnt enough. I dont think we can put the distance tag on him yet.....

[RolloTomasi]

Is he supposed to run again before the BC?

I would think he should. Maybe not wanting to tangle with the big boys, he could land somewhere like the Meadowlands Cup.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

I didn't see his Woodward, but I think I read that he made a middle move and hung, so maybe he's also just not that good.

He broke very poorly, was the only one that threatened Lawyer Ron on the turn and then tired late to finish fourth. He's not good enough for the Classic but shouldn't have a problem in the Dirt Mile as long as the monster in Royal Blue doesn't show up and bring his 'A' game. I just don't believe that the Dirt Mile is going to be a big draw that is going to suck away all these Classic horses like others think. More likely it will be the horses that would have just skipped the Classic anyways. If it ever becomes a G1 then that would be a huge disaster that would have exactly the same ramifications that all the Chicken Little's have projected. Until then it is just an undercard race with a souped up purse that isnt going to stop people from going for the big prize.

[RolloTomasi]

Not to be too outlandish, but I don't think much of the Classic field this year either. In fact, aside from Curlin (who might be toast by now), which of those horses in there seems at its best at 10f?

Street Sense could win on ability, but he really doesn't look comfortable beyond 9f and in a tougher group, I'd look hard to beat him.

[letswastemoney]

Everyone is always trying to beat Street Sense, yet he's done little wrong this year.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

Everyone is always trying to beat Street Sense, yet he's done little wrong this year.

He's like Forty Niner, too many photo finishes. Can't get too confident with him despite all the wins. Plus each successive race is less impressive than the next.

Seems like he's passing up an easy prep in the Super Derby, too (not that Turfway or Hawthorne will be tough). Nafzger said yesterday that the horse was ready to run this Saturday so what is he waiting for? He can avoid the poly and 10f if he goes to Louisiana, for a race he's used successfully in the past (ie Unbridled).

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

Everyone is always trying to beat Street Sense

Do you say this based on the fact the he went off at 1/5 odds in his last two races - or the fact that he was the post time favorite in his last five straight races?

[cmorioles]

The few that have tried to beat SS have continually lost.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

The few that have tried to beat SS have continually lost.

Yes - 3 out of those five times - twice as a 1/5 favorite - he's really stuck it to them.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Yes - 3 out of those five times - twice as a 1/5 favorite - he's really stuck it to them.

5 out of the last 7. I would say the lower his odds, the more someone is likely to bet if taking a stand against.

[Danzig]

political force is supposed to run in the jcgc. he finished ahead of lawyer ron earlier this year. anyone giving him a look at all??

[FGFan]

Originally Posted by boswd

I do but that's besides the point.

Fairbanks was a horse people were looking at as well as Dr. Pleasure and as you stated coming into the sprig/summer Brass Hat was pretty highly regarded. Alot higher than Lawyer Ron was before the Saratoga meet.

And come on you have to love Evening Attire.

Yes I adore him, he even has his own thread. Lucky you Mass Cap people.
Wish Evening Attire would come run down here in the south.
Might not be the most competitive race, but some nice horses in there.
Hope you all have a fun and great day!

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I think the 10 furlongs is what will do him in. I know he won the Suburban at that distance, but he really looked to be struggling that last furlong and IMO won because he was struggling the least.

but it really seems that everyone thinks all of the top horses for the bcc may struggle at the 10f distance. so, who will outlast the others?

[boswd]

big fields for the MassCap undercard races about an average 10 to 11 starters per race.

http://www.drf.com/entries/22/eSUF22.html?rn=871539