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Old 05-23-2007, 08:02 PM
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Premium Tap is Grade 1 horse in the way Lava Man is. When faced with real Grade 1 competition their true colors are shown. That they cant win a race with true grade 1 competition, cause they dont have the class nor the talent to win
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Old 05-23-2007, 08:08 PM
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so far id be a total idiot to say yes given his progress as a 3 yr old, but he did win the hopeful and thats a grade 1. With that said he would have to show alot more to even be considered a true grade 1 class horse
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Old 05-23-2007, 08:13 PM
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So the grade 1, the Woodward, that Premium Tap won doesn't count?
well, of course not silly, since prem tap isn't a gr 1 horse!
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Old 05-23-2007, 08:25 PM
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Premium Tap is Grade 1 horse in the way Lava Man is. When faced with real Grade 1 competition their true colors are shown. That they cant win a race with true grade 1 competition, cause they dont have the class nor the talent to win

Lava Man couldnt hold Tap's wang hair. Finishing a game second to the eventual H.O.Y. means nothing now-a-days? This guy is so far from reality, I'm surprised we even respond. He puts the Ma-rig-a-ma-roo on every horse he picks. (as if I dont)
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Old 05-23-2007, 08:27 PM
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[quote=DaHoss9698]Is Circular Quay a true grade 1 horse?[/QUOTE]

Once upon a time, I thought he was...and someone tried to warn me...oh..I think that was you.
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Old 05-23-2007, 08:33 PM
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I don't even know why I am bothering. Sometimes I think I'd just be better off hitting myself in the forehead with a hammer, basically the same result.
it is quite pointless.
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Old 05-23-2007, 08:34 PM
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Lava Man couldnt hold Tap's wang hair. Finishing a game second to the eventual H.O.Y. means nothing now-a-days? This guy is so far from reality, I'm surprised we even respond. He puts the Ma-rig-a-ma-roo on every horse he picks. (as if I dont)

lots of good horses finish 2nd to a HOY, but they arent of true grade 1 caliber
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Old 05-23-2007, 08:35 PM
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what about horses like Early Pioneer, and that horse that won the Stephen Foster last year. Your telling me they are true grade 1 horses as well and can compete with the best?
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Old 05-23-2007, 08:46 PM
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who did he run against in the Woodward? Clark?.............were there other Grade 1 performers in the race???

Flower Alley doesnt count, we damn well know what happened to him
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Old 05-23-2007, 08:49 PM
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To be fair, you are right, I don't think Seek Gold is a grade 1 horse. However, given your history of picking horses here and on other sites, do you really think you are the best person to be assessing talent?

And I'm still waiting for an answer as to why winning the grade 1 Woodward, running 3rd in the BC Classic to a HOY and 3 year old champ, and running second to that same HOY again does not make him a grade 1 caliber horse. I have a feeling I'll be waiting a long time for this answer.

For s hits and giggles, would it be possible for you to give me a few examples of grade 1 caliber horses running right now. And please, try and make it as amusing as your top 10 list, I need a good laugh.
The last time he did a top horses in training list I believe horses like Ravel were on it. There were some other really funny ones as well.
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Old 05-23-2007, 09:10 PM
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Oh for the love of pointgiven1985, now he is saying that a horse that has won SIX G1s (Lava Man) is not a G1 caliber horse. I am not a big fan of Lava Man, and he certainly has some severe limitations as a racehorse, but once a horse wins six G1s, saying that he isn't G1 caliber is just foolish.
Give up trying to convince him otherwise. He apparently just doesn't get it.
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Old 05-24-2007, 08:11 AM
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Old 05-24-2007, 08:20 AM
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For everyone to enjoy...Seattle's top ten horses in training:

Seattle's Top 10 horses
1.Invasor
2.Vengenace of Rain
3.Asiatic Boy
4.Discreet Cat
5.Street Sense
6.Circular Quay
7.Rags to Riches
8.Red Rocks
9.Ravel
10.Curlin/Admire Moon
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Old 05-24-2007, 09:27 AM
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For everyone to enjoy...Seattle's top ten horses in training:

Seattle's Top 10 horses
1.Invasor
2.Vengenace of Rain
3.Asiatic Boy
4.Discreet Cat
5.Street Sense
6.Circular Quay
7.Rags to Riches
8.Red Rocks
9.Ravel
10.Curlin/Admire Moon

besides circular quay and ravel, that is not too bad of a list

premium tap should be on that list though an he is no doubt in anyones mind (except for seattles) that he is a grade 1 horse. Premium Tap should be like 3 or 4 on that list. Didnt he win some big Arabian stake this year (Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques Cup (KSA,12F). And, according to the NTRA, he won two Grade 1 and historically major races in the Woodward and Clark.

2.5 million in winnings aint too shabby either
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Old 05-24-2007, 09:30 AM
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Just so I know, was Bernardini a grade 1 caliber horse?

he beat Bernardini???....thats news to me
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Old 05-24-2007, 09:34 AM
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Sh*t that top ten list is over 5 weeks old. I would hope his new list won't have CQ after his dismall performances in the TC races and Ravel getting injured. Seattle I would like to see your new list
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Old 05-24-2007, 09:42 AM
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1. Invasor
2. Vengeance of Rain
3. Street Sense
4. Curlin
5. Master Commander
6. Rags to Riches
7. Red Rocks
8. Admire Moon
9. Araafa
10. Asiatic Boy
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Old 05-24-2007, 09:50 AM
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1. Invasor
2. Vengeance of Rain
3. Street Sense
4. Curlin
5. Master Commander
6. Rags to Riches
7. Red Rocks
8. Admire Moon
9. Araafa
10. Asiatic Boy
Thanks Seattle, pretty good list. Only one I might question is Master Command each time he has step up against the big boys he hasn't done that well. I looking forward to seeing Diamond Stripes an upincoming horse trained by Richie Dutrow Jr. run soon. This horse has a chance to make some noise in the classic division. He's been working great at the Big A.
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Old 05-24-2007, 09:55 AM
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yeah time will tell if ill replace Master Command with Lawyer Ron, but ill give MC another chance to show it against Grade 1 quality.
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Old 05-24-2007, 10:01 AM
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yeah time will tell if ill replace Master Command with Lawyer Ron, but ill give MC another chance to show it against Grade 1 quality.
We will see how good Lawyer Ron is after Met Mile this weekend
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