Best Group 2 in the world?

[brockguy]

No Chance, just got a chance to see the race, I was impressed with the winner. Usually O'Brien's winners in this race arent that visually impressive (Galileo and High Chap just won after being impressive in the Ballysax), but this guy looked the goods. I have to say I, along with plenty of others with Mourayan. He should have improved for his first run, but didnt really and is slightly concerning. He may be badly in need of a step up in trip and Ill judge him on his next efforts.

I was surprised to see Nick Mordin have quite a negative view of the race. Fame and Glory will go to Epsom as a deserving favourite, but there are plenty of would be challengers. We'll know plenty more after the always informative Dante tomorrow.

[NoChanceToDance]

I just get the impression that Fame And Glory beat very little the other day. I do like him and he's obviously a horse with plenty of class, but to me, he's beaten a very slow horse who will need a trip and very little else.

I think there are other horses that deserve to be shorter in the betting than this fella.

[brockguy]

The best Group 2 in the world was on again on Sunday with Midas Touch providing Aidan O'Brien with yet another winner. I do think he will be battling Fracas as the worst winner of this race over the past decade.

A review of the winners since 2000:

2000 Sinndar - top class 2 Derbys and an Arc

2001 Galileo - top class 2 Derbys and a King George

2002 High Chaparral - top class 2 Derbys, 2 Breeders Cups, an Irish Champion Stakes

2003 - Alamshar - top class Irish Derby, King George

2004 - Yeats - top class Cornation Cup, Ascot Gold Cup

2005 - Fracas - eh, not quite the same level as above

2006 - Dylan Thomas - top class Irish Derby, Irish Champion Stakes x 2, Prix Ganay, King George, Arc

2007 - Archipenko - top class, Audemars Piguet QE II Cup winner, 2nd Arlington Million, 3rd Dubai Duty Free

2008 - Casual Conquest - just shy of top class 3rd Epsom Derby, 2nd Irish Derby won a soft G1 - Tattersalls Gold Cup - in training again this year

2009 - Fame and Glory - top class, albeit a bit 'slow' - Irish Derby winner, 2nd Derby, Irish Champion Stakes - stays in training this year

2010 - Midas Touch - ???

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by brockguy

I do think he will be battling Fracas as the worst winner of this race over the past decade.
2010 - Midas Touch - ???

This was a really really small field, right?

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