New World Record 4.5 F........on polytrack

[Sightseek]

I DVR'ed the workouts this morning on TVG, but it sounds like the works for the up-coming 2 year old sale were well received on the poly although producing very fast times.

http://auctions.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=38394

[whodey17]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Indeed, didn't he have that nice filly on the opener last friday?

He sure did. He also had two fillies take some nice MSW races at Santa Anita. I think he is winning like at 90% with 2 year olds.

[jpops757]

Are these 2yr olds he is winning with ,home breds are were they purchased?

[Indian Charlie]

bring the heat, the sire of this filly, was a horse of much talent.

like most other speedy offspring of inxs though, his career didnt last very long.

does anyone know if this is his first runner? where he stands?

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

bring the heat, the sire of this filly, was a horse of much talent.

like most other speedy offspring of inxs though, his career didnt last very long.

does anyone know if this is his first runner? where he stands?

this is actually his second crop, and he's apparently had very few foals.
he had another 2yo filly win nicely for ward at sa recently too, excessive heat.

that was a 1/4 mile race though, so it wasnt that impressive

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

The Keeneland surface has been blazing.

Both a Yankee Gentleman colt and a Lemon Drop Kid filly worked 2/8s in 20 1/5 at the first preview of the two-year-olds in training sale on Monday. That is a new world record in itself. Think about what one of the top sprinters in the country could have done! A Mineshaft filly worked 1/8 in 9 3/5. While it is not uncommon for an extremely fast two year old to occassionally run a 9 3/5 or 9 4/5 for the 1/8 (For example, the Red Bullet Colt that everyone was raving about that sold for a million or two million+-I can't remember how much money off the top of my head-went 9 3/5 at the Barretts May last year.), as many as 10+ two year olds have ran 9 4/5 for the 1/8 at the first preview of the Keeneland sale.

[sumitas]

it seems the poly is clearly an improvement over the dirt...just the idea of running these kids full blast just doesn't seem right, regardless of the surface.

[Merlinsky]

There was some speculation as to how long it would take before One Hot Wish gets injured, retired, and bred to Unbridled's Song at age 3.

Here's a question for everybody, does it help when a stallion who's thought of as having potential for late developing offspring has a 2yo go blazing fast or is it really just a form of overcompensating that everyone can smell a mile away? That most of the offspring won't really be capable of that or stay sound if pushed that hard that soon. Will those 2yo with breeding that doesn't, in the slightest, indicate precocity even amount to anything on the track and will the plan to make it appear as if the best offspring are really super secret sprinters (and ergo commercial) be foiled?

I mean does anybody really expect Lemon Drop Kid's babies to rock 6 furlongs without a good swift kick to the butt? Maybe I'm not being fair. I'm just curious because I can get it if they say certain sires had flashy 2yo sales horses but sometimes you go "Really? They were by who? Nah you're messing with me."

[Riot]

I course dogs, meaning I take sighthounds, dogs bred to run very fast, and run them in field trials and hunting trials, over natural terrain.

It has been shown repeatedly that if one takes track-bred greyhounds - speed specialists bred to run very, very fast, for a very, very short period of time, over a particular artificial surface, banking nearly constantly to the left - and run them over natural terrain in these other sports - they break. Legs, toes, muscle pulls, etc. They are too fast to do something different other than their specialized niche. Is that niche specialist speed factor valuable for incorporating into breeding programs? Certainly.

But it has been shown that there can indeed be such a thing as, "too fast" for what you are asking an animal to do. Yes, it may need "X" amount of speed to be successful, but that doesn't mean possessing "3X speed" is better.

The animal additionally has to have the other metabolic, conformational, and mental qualities that enable it to use that X speed successfully as an elite athlete. Having only one part of the multi-variable equation for success doesn't cut it in real life.

If I need a horse that can run 11-12 second furlongs for specified amount of distance, why should I presume that one that can run 9-10 second furlongs would be necessarily more suitable or more desired for my intended purpose?

Interesting comment on breeding in DRF http://www.drf.com/drfNewsArticle.do?NID=83893

[Merlinsky]

Hey check this out, One Hot Wish is going to Keeneland on Tuesday for the sale.

From Bloodhorse: http://breeding.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=38413

"Bred by co-owner and trainer Wesley Ward, One Hot Wish is by Bring the Heat out of Wish for a Jeanne, by Roar. She will be listed as hip no. 227 and will be the last horse to go through the sale ring. Eaton Sales will consign her for Ward and Tanklage.

“We rarely do an addendum to our catalogue, but she is such a unique individual that we felt we should," said Geoffrey Russell, Keeneland’s director of sales. "

[Echo Farm]

Originally Posted by Merlinsky

“We rarely do an addendum to our catalogue, but she is such a unique individual that we felt we should," said Geoffrey Russell, Keeneland’s director of sales. "

http://ww2.keeneland.com/Pictures/PD...atalogpage.pdf

[Merlinsky]

Thanks, I didn't see the other thread on her upcoming sale. I'm really curious as to who's gonna get her. I'm hoping it'll involve an improvement off of Ward. This could be a good thing for the filly if she has yet to develop a problem (knock on wood and throw salt over your shoulder on that one) and gets in the right hands.

I know this is considered the world record but what exactly is there in the way of competition outside the U.S.? And who held the record previously?