NBA Playoffs

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

It didn't but even in the one game the Nuggets beat the Lakers this year, the Lakers beat them on the offensive boards 22-11. In the third game it was 18-10 (they were only one apart in the first game). So the Lakers typically outrebound them and because of their size, dominate the offensive glass. But you can't give away free points. Denver went 23-35 from the line, 12-21 in the first half. That's unacceptable at this point in the season. Giving away 12 points in a game you realistically lost by only 1-2 points is disappointing.

Thats the reason Billups gave. No doubt a contributing factor but I disagree it was "pure and simple". 12-21 in the first half means they shot 11-14 in the second half including an intentional miss so they actually went 11-13 when it counted. That is pretty darn good on the road in the playoffs and it was just as good as the lakers shot down the stretch.

To me that game was lost on tempo pure and simple. The lakers are 8 and 0 when scoring over 100 points and 1 and 4 when they scored below 100. Its not too hard to do the math. If you play an uptempo game against the lakers they will beat you.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

And you are the arbiter of who should join basketball discussions? LOL. I didnt say Garnett could do a better job on an NBA point...I said he would have a better chance guarding 5 positions. Is there a comprehension problem here? Garnett can guard an NBA center...well! Lebron isnt covering a center or a guard well.

Suddenly, Lebron is a lockdown defender of 5 positions...and i shouldnt be discussing basketball.

My God. It took me a while but I finally see what everyone else has seen for a long time. I give up.

[NTamm1215]

So it's like a 80/60 thing?

From what I can surmise KG can guard the 2-3-4-5 while LeBron can ONLY guard the 2-3-4.

NT

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

My God. It took me a while but I finally see what everyone else has seen for a long time. I give up.

Thank God for mirrors and acne meds.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

So it's like a 80/60 thing?

From what I can surmise KG can guard the 2-3-4-5 while LeBron can ONLY guard the 2-3-4.

NT

My only contention was that lebron can't guard five positions and anyone that knows anything about basketball knows this. Someone else said Lebron could come closest to doing it and my quote was that I think Garnett could come closest but Lebron would be in the same sentence of who would come closest. For some reason, this seems unreasonable to some.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

My only contention was that lebron can't guard five positions and anyone that knows anything about basketball knows this. Someone else said Lebron could come closest to doing it and my quote was that I think Garnett could come closest but Lebron would be in the same sentence of who would come closest. For some reason, this seems unreasonable to some.

Yeah yeah yeah. And i misquoted jerry west too. If someone says you can PLAY 4 positions than surely the 50% of the time you spend on defense should count no? Why you think James couldnt guard the vast majority of NBA centers is strange since there are lots of post defenders in the NBA smaller and not nearly as athletic as James.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Yeah yeah yeah. And i misquoted jerry west too. If someone says you can PLAY 4 positions than surely the 50% of the time you spend on defense should count no? Why you think James couldnt guard the vast majority of NBA centers is strange since there are lots of post defenders in the NBA smaller and not nearly as athletic as James.

What did you think about the game last night?

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Yeah, until those two three-pointers though, he wasn't worth a lot in this game. He also should've come to the ball on that inbound. Though I don't know why the hell Carter was inbounding to begin with.

Couldn't believe that. So many missed opportunities to steal one in LA. That stretch where they were up 7 with about 6 minutes to go and JR Smith just kept gunning up threes was killing me. Had they worked it to 11 there instead of Smith's obsession with making it a 10 point game that backfired, the Lakers don't get back in the game. I HATE the foul up three at the end of games, makes for such an anticlimactic finish.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

What did you think about the game last night?

6 points and a steal doesnt make you Larry Bird

[dalakhani]

[quote=Cannon Shell]6 points and a steal doesnt make you Larry Bird[/QUOT

? LOL. i wasnt even talking about Ariza.

What was your take? I was incredibly please to see Carmello perform like that. To me it really vindicated what i always have thought about him.

[Cannon Shell]

[quote=dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

6 points and a steal doesnt make you Larry Bird[/QUOT

? LOL. i wasnt even talking about Ariza.

What was your take? I was incredibly please to see Carmello perform like that. To me it really vindicated what i always have thought about him.

Entertaining game that Denver blew. Anderson played well, should get more minutes

[Cannon Shell]

Uh Dala....hopefully you are watching the game tonight and saw none other than Lebron James guarding the other teams point guard for most of the 2nd half of the 1st quarter...

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Yeah yeah yeah. And i misquoted jerry west too. If someone says you can PLAY 4 positions than surely the 50% of the time you spend on defense should count no? Why you think James couldnt guard the vast majority of NBA centers is strange since there are lots of post defenders in the NBA smaller and not nearly as athletic as James.

Magic played point guard but rarely was matched up against the other team's point. That job went to byron scott or michael cooper or norm nixon when he was there. Bird played 3 or 4 but was always matched up against the slower player of the other team. Iverson played 2 guard at philly but rarely matched up against the other team's two guard.

My point is that just because you "play" a position doesnt mean you defend it.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Uh Dala....hopefully you are watching the game tonight and saw none other than Lebron James guarding the other teams point guard for most of the 2nd half of the 1st quarter...

LOL. LOL. they are basically playing zone and the other teams point is a self check. His job isnt to "guard" the point its to double off the ball because that is the weakest player.

Chuck im giving basketball classes saturday mornings. You are welcome to attend. The first class is titled "the cap" and its intended to inform guys like king glorious that you can't trade 3 players for a single draft pick. Bring the donuts and the coffee.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

LOL. LOL. they are basically playing zone and the other teams point is a self check. His job isnt to "guard" the point its to double off the ball because that is the weakest player.

Chuck im giving basketball classes saturday mornings. You are welcome to attend. The first class is titled "the cap" and its intended to inform guys like king glorious that you can't trade 3 players for a single draft pick. Bring the donuts and the coffee.

he is guarding Rafer Alsoton now, you know one of those guys that he doesnt have enough lateral quickness to cover...

Regardless of what defense they are using he is matched up against the other teams pgs who havent even bothered to attempt to drive by him. he also doesnt usually double, he is usually the weakside help. Guarding the pg allows him to cover both sides since they usually start the offense near the middle of the court. Feel free to use that in your class.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

he is guarding Rafer Alsoton now, you know one of those guys that he doesnt have enough lateral quickness to cover...

Regardless of what defense they are using he is matched up against the other teams pgs who havent even bothered to attempt to drive by him. he also doesnt usually double, he is usually the weakside help. Guarding the pg allows him to cover both sides since they usually start the offense near the middle of the court. Feel free to use that in your class.

Its not that it is the "point" that he is covering. Alston is the weakest offensive player on the floor so they are basically letting him get his. Basically, a zone.

Alston has hit a couple of shots now. Also, if you notice, they are switching on the high screen and roll and shading to the screener.

Basically, they are giving alston zero respect. If it makes you feel better to say that he is "covering" alston, have at it even though Doug Collins just pointed out exactly what i just said.

[dalakhani]

I will say this though. He covers a ton of ground quickly. Not side to side so much but straight on no one can cover ground like Lebron.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

LOL. LOL. they are basically playing zone and the other teams point is a self check. His job isnt to "guard" the point its to double off the ball because that is the weakest player.

Chuck im giving basketball classes saturday mornings. You are welcome to attend. The first class is titled "the cap" and its intended to inform guys like king glorious that you can't trade 3 players for a single draft pick. Bring the donuts and the coffee.

I know the cap fairly well but as long as you're teaching I'll ask, what happens if the Clippers just paid Zach Randolph his $28 million to get the f*ck out of Los Angeles? Does he still count against the cap both years the same as if he were there or do they just take a cap hit the one year and are free in year two?

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

I know the cap fairly well but as long as you're teaching I'll ask, what happens if the Clippers just paid Zach Randolph his $28 million to get the f*ck out of Los Angeles? Does he still count against the cap both years the same as if he were there or do they just take a cap hit the one year and are free in year two?

Good question. The buyout amount would be distributed over the remaining years of the contract. Lets take randolph for example. He is owed roughly 28 million i think. If he settles for say 20 milllion, 10 million would count this year and 10 million next year. If there were 4 years left, it would be 5 million per year against the cap.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Good question. The buyout amount would be distributed over the remaining years of the contract. Lets take randolph for example. He is owed roughly 28 million i think. If he settles for say 20 milllion, 10 million would count this year and 10 million next year. If there were 4 years left, it would be 5 million per year against the cap.

That's what I figured. So even if they want to dump him they'd have to pay $14 million a year, same as they could pay him to be an extra body in practice.