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Old 07-08-2014, 10:33 AM
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I am not sure he can run down a loose on the lead GOD, Hollendorfer will probably enter a rabbit again.
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Old 07-08-2014, 10:40 AM
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I am not sure he can run down a loose on the lead GOD, Hollendorfer will probably enter a rabbit again.
The more I think about it, the more I am inclined to believe GOD might be pretty tough in there. If loose, that is.

This really does have to be the worst reasonable spot for him.
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Old 07-08-2014, 06:18 PM
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The more I think about it, the more I am inclined to believe GOD might be pretty tough in there. If loose, that is.

This really does have to be the worst reasonable spot for him.
He would be. And for you to say Shared Belief is the best horse pointing to race is pure comedy. GOD has won multiple G1's and a good 2nd in a BC Classic. The other horse has won a very soft Juvy G1. I dont think Shared Belief will ever in his life run a race like GOD Big Cap this year.
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Old 07-08-2014, 06:49 PM
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Clearly he's the best horse aiming for the race.
I think he's a really nice horse but am getting very confused by the whole second coming tone going on in this thread.

I'm wondering who else is pointing to the Pacific Classic (aside from the other GoD horse) and am already kind of feeling bad for him cause the whole disappointment turning into disgust, stick-a-fork-in-him mentality is, I fear, a real possibility. (No disrespect meant... I just think your expectations might be a tad too high).

Not to sound like a complete idiot but is California Chrome going to the Pacific Classic?
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Old 07-08-2014, 08:43 PM
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I think he's a really nice horse but am getting very confused by the whole second coming tone going on in this thread.

I'm wondering who else is pointing to the Pacific Classic (aside from the other GoD horse) and am already kind of feeling bad for him cause the whole disappointment turning into disgust, stick-a-fork-in-him mentality is, I fear, a real possibility. (No disrespect meant... I just think your expectations might be a tad too high).

Not to sound like a complete idiot but is California Chrome going to the Pacific Classic?
From what I've read, the PAC classic isn't the plan. Los Al supposedly going to write a race for him as a BC prep.
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Old 07-08-2014, 09:20 PM
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I think he's a really nice horse but am getting very confused by the whole second coming tone going on in this thread.

I'm wondering who else is pointing to the Pacific Classic (aside from the other GoD horse) and am already kind of feeling bad for him cause the whole disappointment turning into disgust, stick-a-fork-in-him mentality is, I fear, a real possibility. (No disrespect meant... I just think your expectations might be a tad too high).

Not to sound like a complete idiot but is California Chrome going to the Pacific Classic?
I read where they might gallop him before the crowd but that's pretty much it for his Del Mar appearance.
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Old 07-08-2014, 11:00 PM
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I think he's a really nice horse but am getting very confused by the whole second coming tone going on in this thread.

I'm wondering who else is pointing to the Pacific Classic (aside from the other GoD horse) and am already kind of feeling bad for him cause the whole disappointment turning into disgust, stick-a-fork-in-him mentality is, I fear, a real possibility. (No disrespect meant... I just think your expectations might be a tad too high).

Not to sound like a complete idiot but is California Chrome going to the Pacific Classic?
As Arletta said, CC is not running in the Pacific Classic. He's not even in training right now. They sent him out to the farm for a rest. I believe their plan is to prep in the Goodwood (which is usually around Oct. 1st) and then run him in the BC Classic. CC obviously loved the old Santa Anita track, but there will be a new surface at SA come October. CC seemed to run fine on every track but he was most dominant at Santa Anita. I think he was at least a couple lengths better at Santa Anita than other tracks. He probably won't have that same advantage on the new surface.
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Old 07-08-2014, 11:16 PM
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I think he was at least a couple lengths better at Santa Anita than other tracks.
Except when he wasn't.
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Old 07-09-2014, 09:28 AM
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Except when he wasn't.
He also might have been just putting it all together during the Winter/Spring meet.
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Old 07-09-2014, 09:03 AM
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As Arletta said, CC is not running in the Pacific Classic. He's not even in training right now. They sent him out to the farm for a rest. I believe their plan is to prep in the Goodwood (which is usually around Oct. 1st) and then run him in the BC Classic. CC obviously loved the old Santa Anita track, but there will be a new surface at SA come October. CC seemed to run fine on every track but he was most dominant at Santa Anita. I think he was at least a couple lengths better at Santa Anita than other tracks. He probably won't have that same advantage on the new surface.
http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...-toward-return

this is where i read they will run once at los al, in a race they're going to write for him, as a prep for the bc.
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Old 07-09-2014, 02:38 PM
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http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...-toward-return

this is where i read they will run once at los al, in a race they're going to write for him, as a prep for the bc.
I didn't realize there was going to be a race for him at Los Al. That gives them a good option. Off the layoff, they may want to come back in a one mile race, rather than a 1 1/8 mile race. It will probably be a much easier field too.
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Old 07-10-2014, 05:34 PM
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As Arletta said, CC is not running in the Pacific Classic. He's not even in training right now. They sent him out to the farm for a rest. I believe their plan is to prep in the Goodwood (which is usually around Oct. 1st) and then run him in the BC Classic. CC obviously loved the old Santa Anita track, but there will be a new surface at SA come October. CC seemed to run fine on every track but he was most dominant at Santa Anita. I think he was at least a couple lengths better at Santa Anita than other tracks. He probably won't have that same advantage on the new surface.
http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...rly-from-break

He's coming back early apparently. Sounds like Los Al Mile, then BCC. Not loving that. All those major 3yo graded stakes and he goes in one ungraded stake and into the Classic? He's not a delicate flower. Meh.
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Old 07-09-2014, 09:32 AM
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I think he's a really nice horse but am getting very confused by the whole second coming tone going on in this thread.

I'm wondering who else is pointing to the Pacific Classic (aside from the other GoD horse) and am already kind of feeling bad for him cause the whole disappointment turning into disgust, stick-a-fork-in-him mentality is, I fear, a real possibility. (No disrespect meant... I just think your expectations might be a tad too high).

Not to sound like a complete idiot but is California Chrome going to the Pacific Classic?
I doubt if he loses in the Pacific Classic I'll be moaning about him being done.

I would not be surprised at all if he burns at Del Mar. That race is going to be the best spot to play against him, in my estimation.

Coming back out of that race though, provided he runs on dirt, he'd be real real tough.

My expectations for him? I think he's the most talented horse we've seen at least since Barbaro. I also think he's susceptible to all sorts of problems. Therefore, I really don't have any expectations for him other than to win almost any race he goes into, provided he's sound going in.
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Old 07-08-2014, 08:33 PM
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He would be. And for you to say Shared Belief is the best horse pointing to race is pure comedy. GOD has won multiple G1's and a good 2nd in a BC Classic. The other horse has won a very soft Juvy G1. I dont think Shared Belief will ever in his life run a race like GOD Big Cap this year.
I'm thinking that Game on Dude is done. If he runs one of his freak type of races, he may win easily. But I don't see that happening.
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Old 07-08-2014, 09:10 PM
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I'm thinking that Game on Dude is done. If he runs one of his freak type of races, he may win easily. But I don't see that happening.
Thats possible.
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Old 07-09-2014, 09:34 AM
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He would be. And for you to say Shared Belief is the best horse pointing to race is pure comedy. GOD has won multiple G1's and a good 2nd in a BC Classic. The other horse has won a very soft Juvy G1. I dont think Shared Belief will ever in his life run a race like GOD Big Cap this year.
Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Your post gives me hope that he'll stay sound and be around a lot longer than I'd thought.

Game on Dude, historically speaking, is a tremendously overrated horse.

He's a one dimensional horse who's had the luxury of coming along at a time when the handicap division has been pretty weak.

Commentator would have crushed this horse.
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Old 07-09-2014, 09:55 AM
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Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Your post gives me hope that he'll stay sound and be around a lot longer than I'd thought.

Game on Dude, historically speaking, is a tremendously overrated horse.

He's a one dimensional horse who's had the luxury of coming along at a time when the handicap division has been pretty weak.

Commentator would have crushed this horse.
Aren't they pretty much the same horse running routes? I think if both ran in the same race neither one is close to winning as long as there were other breathing horses running in the same race. Who's overrating Game On Dude? He is what he is. I don't think anyone is calling him an all time great or anything.
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Old 07-09-2014, 09:58 AM
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Aren't they pretty much the same horse running routes? I think if both ran in the same race neither one is close to winning as long as there were other breathing horses running in the same race. Who's overrating Game On Dude? He is what he is. I don't think anyone is calling him an all time great or anything.
Yes, they run the same way. Commentator and GoD are much alike.

However, I'll take the former as a higher quality any day. I wasn't even a big fan of his.

Who's overrating GoD? PG95, that's who.
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Old 07-09-2014, 11:39 AM
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Yes, they run the same way. Commentator and GoD are much alike.

However, I'll take the former as a higher quality any day. I wasn't even a big fan of his.

Who's overrating GoD? PG95, that's who.
I don't overrate him. He is what he is. You overrated Belief I just pointed out GOD is much more accomplished. I mean hell Eskendereyas 3yr old races would crush Shared Belief.
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Old 07-09-2014, 11:37 AM
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Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Your post gives me hope that he'll stay sound and be around a lot longer than I'd thought.

Game on Dude, historically speaking, is a tremendously overrated horse.

He's a one dimensional horse who's had the luxury of coming along at a time when the handicap division has been pretty weak.

Commentator would have crushed this horse.
I agree with one thing in that post. Commentator is one of the GOAT.
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