Shared Belief

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Pacific Classic next.

I would like to see him stay on dirt, as I think the Del Mar surface is an abomination that is especially ill suited for a horse that runs with Shared Beliefs style.

I've never been a fan of synthetic racing surfaces, but the cushion track at least played fairly similar to dirt, which was one of the two reasons I had no doubt Shared Belief would like dirt racing.

I'd hope Dorf gets some work with him over the track, but hell, that terrible surface has seen many horses work great over it in the mornings only to see them unable to run a step in the afternoon.

I'd just as soon see him go in one of the Arlington turf races, over anything at Del Mar.

Million dollar bonus is big as he is a gelding right? They arent shipping east for the Travers when they can ship to Delmar for same money. Who is going to beat him in Pac? Game on Dude loose on lead?

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Million dollar bonus is big as he is a gelding right? They arent shipping east for the Travers when they can ship to Delmar for same money. Who is going to beat him in Pac? Game on Dude loose on lead?

You miss my point.

Clearly he's the best horse aiming for the race.

I have my concerns that that racing surface is anti conducive to him running his optimal race.

I think the bonus, while nice, is of secondary value. The purse money from the three races is much greater than the bonus.

I'd guesstimate first place prize money from all three races to be around $3.9 million.

[10 pnt move up]

I am not sure he can run down a loose on the lead GOD, Hollendorfer will probably enter a rabbit again.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

I am not sure he can run down a loose on the lead GOD, Hollendorfer will probably enter a rabbit again.

The more I think about it, the more I am inclined to believe GOD might be pretty tough in there. If loose, that is.

This really does have to be the worst reasonable spot for him.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

The more I think about it, the more I am inclined to believe GOD might be pretty tough in there. If loose, that is.

This really does have to be the worst reasonable spot for him.

He would be. And for you to say Shared Belief is the best horse pointing to race is pure comedy. GOD has won multiple G1's and a good 2nd in a BC Classic. The other horse has won a very soft Juvy G1. I dont think Shared Belief will ever in his life run a race like GOD Big Cap this year.

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Clearly he's the best horse aiming for the race.

I think he's a really nice horse but am getting very confused by the whole second coming tone going on in this thread.

I'm wondering who else is pointing to the Pacific Classic (aside from the other GoD horse) and am already kind of feeling bad for him cause the whole disappointment turning into disgust, stick-a-fork-in-him mentality is, I fear, a real possibility. (No disrespect meant... I just think your expectations might be a tad too high).

Not to sound like a complete idiot but is California Chrome going to the Pacific Classic?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

I think he's a really nice horse but am getting very confused by the whole second coming tone going on in this thread.

I'm wondering who else is pointing to the Pacific Classic (aside from the other GoD horse) and am already kind of feeling bad for him cause the whole disappointment turning into disgust, stick-a-fork-in-him mentality is, I fear, a real possibility. (No disrespect meant... I just think your expectations might be a tad too high).

Not to sound like a complete idiot but is California Chrome going to the Pacific Classic?

From what I've read, the PAC classic isn't the plan. Los Al supposedly going to write a race for him as a BC prep.

[Arletta]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

I think he's a really nice horse but am getting very confused by the whole second coming tone going on in this thread.

I'm wondering who else is pointing to the Pacific Classic (aside from the other GoD horse) and am already kind of feeling bad for him cause the whole disappointment turning into disgust, stick-a-fork-in-him mentality is, I fear, a real possibility. (No disrespect meant... I just think your expectations might be a tad too high).

Not to sound like a complete idiot but is California Chrome going to the Pacific Classic?

I read where they might gallop him before the crowd but that's pretty much it for his Del Mar appearance.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

I think he's a really nice horse but am getting very confused by the whole second coming tone going on in this thread.

I'm wondering who else is pointing to the Pacific Classic (aside from the other GoD horse) and am already kind of feeling bad for him cause the whole disappointment turning into disgust, stick-a-fork-in-him mentality is, I fear, a real possibility. (No disrespect meant... I just think your expectations might be a tad too high).

Not to sound like a complete idiot but is California Chrome going to the Pacific Classic?

As Arletta said, CC is not running in the Pacific Classic. He's not even in training right now. They sent him out to the farm for a rest. I believe their plan is to prep in the Goodwood (which is usually around Oct. 1st) and then run him in the BC Classic. CC obviously loved the old Santa Anita track, but there will be a new surface at SA come October. CC seemed to run fine on every track but he was most dominant at Santa Anita. I think he was at least a couple lengths better at Santa Anita than other tracks. He probably won't have that same advantage on the new surface.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

I think he's a really nice horse but am getting very confused by the whole second coming tone going on in this thread.

I'm wondering who else is pointing to the Pacific Classic (aside from the other GoD horse) and am already kind of feeling bad for him cause the whole disappointment turning into disgust, stick-a-fork-in-him mentality is, I fear, a real possibility. (No disrespect meant... I just think your expectations might be a tad too high).

Not to sound like a complete idiot but is California Chrome going to the Pacific Classic?

I doubt if he loses in the Pacific Classic I'll be moaning about him being done.

I would not be surprised at all if he burns at Del Mar. That race is going to be the best spot to play against him, in my estimation.

Coming back out of that race though, provided he runs on dirt, he'd be real real tough.

My expectations for him? I think he's the most talented horse we've seen at least since Barbaro. I also think he's susceptible to all sorts of problems. Therefore, I really don't have any expectations for him other than to win almost any race he goes into, provided he's sound going in.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

He would be. And for you to say Shared Belief is the best horse pointing to race is pure comedy. GOD has won multiple G1's and a good 2nd in a BC Classic. The other horse has won a very soft Juvy G1. I dont think Shared Belief will ever in his life run a race like GOD Big Cap this year.

I'm thinking that Game on Dude is done. If he runs one of his freak type of races, he may win easily. But I don't see that happening.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I'm thinking that Game on Dude is done. If he runs one of his freak type of races, he may win easily. But I don't see that happening.

Thats possible.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

He would be. And for you to say Shared Belief is the best horse pointing to race is pure comedy. GOD has won multiple G1's and a good 2nd in a BC Classic. The other horse has won a very soft Juvy G1. I dont think Shared Belief will ever in his life run a race like GOD Big Cap this year.

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Your post gives me hope that he'll stay sound and be around a lot longer than I'd thought.

Game on Dude, historically speaking, is a tremendously overrated horse.

He's a one dimensional horse who's had the luxury of coming along at a time when the handicap division has been pretty weak.

Commentator would have crushed this horse.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Your post gives me hope that he'll stay sound and be around a lot longer than I'd thought.

Game on Dude, historically speaking, is a tremendously overrated horse.

He's a one dimensional horse who's had the luxury of coming along at a time when the handicap division has been pretty weak.

Commentator would have crushed this horse.

Aren't they pretty much the same horse running routes? I think if both ran in the same race neither one is close to winning as long as there were other breathing horses running in the same race. Who's overrating Game On Dude? He is what he is. I don't think anyone is calling him an all time great or anything.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Your post gives me hope that he'll stay sound and be around a lot longer than I'd thought.

Game on Dude, historically speaking, is a tremendously overrated horse.

He's a one dimensional horse who's had the luxury of coming along at a time when the handicap division has been pretty weak.

Commentator would have crushed this horse.

I agree with one thing in that post. Commentator is one of the GOAT.