Yet ANOTHER Jump Start wins

[sumitas]

she's a mare with a great ped

Originally Posted by sumitas

she's a mare with a great ped

Alright, got ya. She def has an interesting pedigree. Lord Avie isnt exciting to me, but her lines are great. She looked like a hard knocking type.

I tried to pm you but its not an option... can you email? My email is listed... I want to ask you a question about a hypo mating.

[sumitas]

with JS i would actually have a list of don'ts...don't cross Secretariat or a Mr Propspector; don't inbreed to much...JS biggest problem was his soundness and you have to breed around that.

Originally Posted by sumitas

with JS i would actually have a list of don'ts...don't cross Secretariat or a Mr Propspector; don't inbreed to much...JS biggest problem was his soundness and you have to breed around that.

You are a very ignorant person.
Jump Start was not "unsound".
he was run into the ground when he was obviously hurting.
What is it exactly that you do know?
It sure isn't anything even remotely related to racing, thats for damn sure.

[sumitas]

that's ur opinion. i'm entitled to mine dude. so get bent.

it would be good to give JS some more Latroienne.

Originally Posted by sumitas

that's ur opinion. i'm entitled to mine dude. so get bent.

it would be good to give JS some more Latroienne.

Your opinion is lousy, just so you know.

[Linny]

The fact is that with Gone West, Storm Cat and AP Indy all carrying Secretariat blood (through the female side) there is bound to be alot of "Sec. inbreeding."

Jump Start was a steal. He suffered a catastrophic injury which could have been fatal. He may have been one of the best of his crop but we'll never know. His first crop has 18 winners, conceived for $5k each to mares of moderate quality. His babies should stretch out well and are winning on all surfaces. Anyone who got in withhim early should be dancing for joy. Remember, many of those wins are coming at A league tracks like SAR, BEL and CD. That's not easy.

And they were also selling quite well... he's been a blessing for a lot of small breeders.

Originally Posted by Linny

The fact is that with Gone West, Storm Cat and AP Indy all carrying Secretariat blood (through the female side) there is bound to be alot of "Sec. inbreeding."

Jump Start was a steal. He suffered a catastrophic injury which could have been fatal. He may have been one of the best of his crop but we'll never know. His first crop has 18 winners, conceived for $5k each to mares of moderate quality. His babies should stretch out well and are winning on all surfaces. Anyone who got in withhim early should be dancing for joy. Remember, many of those wins are coming at A league tracks like SAR, BEL and CD. That's not easy.

Very well stated.
If he was bred to any great mares I sure haven't seen them.
As a matter of fact most of the winners hes had come out of mares I never even heard of.
They all seem to be hard knocking, and they love two turns.
The best is yet to come from him.

Originally Posted by sumitas

with JS i would actually have a list of don'ts...don't cross Secretariat or a Mr Propspector; don't inbreed to much...JS biggest problem was his soundness and you have to breed around that.

Lemme guess, you are a NY breeder and went to one of those "noble steeds" who stand here and weren't bright enough to go to Jump Start for 10 grand and have one on the ground or in the belly who is worth a hell of a lot more than that right?
Nah, you don't want be burdened with things like making a wise decision and profiting from it, so you instead preach to crickets chirping that a sire who stood for 10 grand who has 18 winners already in his first crop despite going to a less than stellar book of mares actually isn't a smashing success.
Lemme guess, you went to Tomorrows Cat and whoever is standing out in Unadilla these days right?

[Fanofthejuiceguys]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Lemme guess, you are a NY breeder and went to one of those "noble steeds" who stand here and weren't bright enough to go to Jump Start for 10 grand and have one on the ground or in the belly who is worth a hell of a lot more than that right?
Nah, you don't want be burdened with things like making a wise decision and profiting from it, so you instead preach to crickets chirping that a sire who stood for 10 grand who has 18 winners already in his first crop despite going to a less than stellar book of mares actually isn't a smashing success.
Lemme guess, you went to Tomorrows Cat and whoever is standing out in Unadilla these days right?

Oracle one suit:

It's nice to see you act like a douchebag when expressing yourself to everyone else as well.

Originally Posted by Fanofthejuiceguys

Oracle one suit:

It's nice to see you act like a douchebag when expressing yourself to everyone else as well.

Whats nicer are guys trying to explain that a sire who stood for a measly 5 grand in his debut year at stud with 18 winners, most at major tracks, is no good.
Whos the big lock today?

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Whats nicer are guys trying to explain that a sire who stood for a measly 5 grand in his debut year at stud with 18 winners, most at major tracks, is no good.
Whos the big lock today?

Mike,
I like you.
At times you give good insights.
So does Sumitas. He speaks for himself.
I just wish you two wouldn't "dig in your heels".
Sumitas's mare is bred to Desert Warrior. It took him lots of thought to come up with this. No need to disrespect his choice, even though it might not agree with yours. Heck, if I could afford to ship one of mine to Jump Start, I certainly would. As of now, I'll take what I've got.
Peace brothers.
DTS