6/7 (BEL): 146th Belmont Stakes (All G1 Stakes P6)

[wac]

anyone get psyched out by cards like this? i was looking at it last night and on my 1st run thru a card i just highlight stuff that interrests me, good workouts, odds in past races, where they raced etc etc and it usually takes me about 45mins. last night i was at it for an hour and a half and was only thru race 6. Like i said does anyone out there look at a card like this get overwhelmed?

[3kings]

Originally Posted by wac

anyone get psyched out by cards like this? i was looking at it last night and on my 1st run thru a card i just highlight stuff that interrests me, good workouts, odds in past races, where they raced etc etc and it usually takes me about 45mins. last night i was at it for an hour and a half and was only thru race 6. Like i said does anyone out there look at a card like this get overwhelmed?

I understand your point. I often feel like I have a better hand on cheaper races because there are more hopeless horses to just ex out and more obvious patterns. Little Mike isn't in those races to ruin my day but maybe now he should be.

[pointman]

Per Dave Grening, Central Banker a scratch out of Met Mile for having a legal medication administered to him within a prohibited time frame before the race.

[3kings]

Originally Posted by pointman

Per Dave Grening, Central Banker a scratch out of Met Mile for having a legal medication administered to him within a prohibited time frame before the race.

So there will be a conso on the 2 day double?
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[pointman]

Originally Posted by 3kings

So there will be a conso on the 2 day double?
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There is on any other double with a scratch at NYRA, I imagine it will be the same with the two day bet.

[pointman]

What a shame to see California Chrome's owner Steve Coburn making a complete fool of himself post race. What a sore loser.

[IrishofNDMan]

Originally Posted by pointman

What a shame to see California Chrome's owner Steve Coburn making a complete fool of himself post race. What a sore loser.

That was awesome!

[cakes44]

He really went for it there.

[Merlinsky]

Originally Posted by pointman

What a shame to see California Chrome's owner Steve Coburn making a complete fool of himself post race. What a sore loser.

Completely. I was just talking about how classy these people have been. Two minutes later he's making me look like an idiot. Be sad if you want, but nobody beat your horse because they pulled some sort of trick. He didn't have it on the day. There's still Champion 3yo and Horse of the Year. Go for those and stop griping. If they change the TC spacing with things like his remarks as an excuse, I'm gonna get mad.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by Merlinsky

Completely. I was just talking about how classy these people have been. Two minutes later he's making me look like an idiot. Be sad if you want, but nobody beat your horse because they pulled some sort of trick. He didn't have it on the day. There's still Champion 3yo and Horse of the Year. Go for those and stop griping. If they change the TC spacing with things like his remarks as an excuse, I'm gonna get mad.

I completely agree. I am sure now we are going to get people blaming Espinoza, especially after Randy Moss' comments.

As far as I am concerned, Victor Espinoza gave that horse every chance to win and unfortunately he just was not good enough today.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by pointman

I completely agree. I am sure now we are going to get people blaming Espinoza, especially after Randy Moss' comments.

As far as I am concerned, Victor Espinoza gave that horse every chance to win and unfortunately he just was not good enough today.

Agree with both of your post race comments.

Personally while watching the race, I didn't think California Chrome's stride looked all that comfortable on the backstretch compared to his last two races.

[Merlinsky]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Agree with both of your post race comments.

Personally while watching the race, I didn't think California Chrome's stride looked all that comfortable on the backstretch compared to his last two races.

Might've been because of the grabbed quarter though. Not sure because War Admiral had it pretty rough too. Not all race-sustained physical problems are created equal and they don't all keep a horse from winning. Maybe all it would've meant is Tonalist catching him in the end or he finished on the board instead of deadheating for 4th. Coburn didn't know about the foot situation when he shot his mouth off. Maybe if he had he'd have rethought the comments and blamed the more likely culprit for his horse's result.

[casp0555]

Originally Posted by Merlinsky

Completely. I was just talking about how classy these people have been. Two minutes later he's making me look like an idiot. Be sad if you want, but nobody beat your horse because they pulled some sort of trick. He didn't have it on the day. There's still Champion 3yo and Horse of the Year. Go for those and stop griping. If they change the TC spacing with things like his remarks as an excuse, I'm gonna get mad.

Your horse got beat today.......suck it up and saddle that mother up and beat his ass in the next race. Jesus HC...needed a serious emotion check prior to that

[Merlinsky]

Originally Posted by casp0555

Your horse got beat today.......suck it up and saddle that mother up and beat his ass in the next race. Jesus HC...needed a serious emotion check prior to that

Yeah. My dad pointed out to me that his wife was poking him in the gut and he turned and gave her the stink eye. Here's the thing, Tonalist and Commissioner wanted in the Derby and for points and illness reasons couldn't go. How does that guy know Tonalist wouldn't have beaten him in the Derby? Or Commissioner? Clearly distance isn't an issue for them and they both showed speed. It's not like some nobody plodder beat them. These were classy horses, bred for the distance. Tonalist's female family's rock solid.

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by pointman

What a shame to see California Chrome's owner Steve Coburn making a complete fool of himself post race. What a sore loser.

That was embarrassing! I was shocked watching that tirade! What happened to sportsmanship and congratulating the winner? Geez.

Congrats to whoever had Tonalist on top. I didn't.

Happy for Joel anyway.

Thanks for the fun times, California Chrome.

[3kings]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

That was embarrassing! I was shocked watching that tirade! What happened to sportsmanship and congratulating the winner? Geez.

Congrats to whoever had Tonalist on top. I didn't.

Happy for Joel anyway.

Thanks for the fun times, California Chrome.

Agree with all of this. That was sad, they were lovable small pocketed owners, but in the end they showed there lack of class.

[Merlinsky]

Haskin tweeted: "California chrome grabbed a quarter. Took good chunk out of his foot. Likely out of the gate." That blasted gate. Can't blame him as much then if that hurt his chances, but it's not like Tonalist didn't have own excuses for not being in the first two races. Maybe Chrome would've had to tangle with him and we wouldn't be talking about CC as a dual winner.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Merlinsky

Haskin tweeted: "California chrome grabbed a quarter. Took good chunk out of his foot. Likely out of the gate." That blasted gate. Can't blame him as much then if that hurt his chances, but it's not like Tonalist didn't have own excuses for not being in the first two races. Maybe Chrome would've had to tangle with him and we wouldn't be talking about CC as a dual winner.

Hope its not too serious. War admiral almost was retired after his Belmont, he'd removed such a large piece at the break.

So very glad the tc circus is over.

[Aly-Sheba]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

That was embarrassing! I was shocked watching that tirade! What happened to sportsmanship and congratulating the winner? Geez.

Congrats to whoever had Tonalist on top. I didn't.

Happy for Joel anyway.

Thanks for the fun times, California Chrome.

While I agree he shouldn't have said what he did, but I kind of find it refreshing that someone wasn't pc for change.

[-BT-]

Originally Posted by wac

anyone get psyched out by cards like this? i was looking at it last night and on my 1st run thru a card i just highlight stuff that interrests me, good workouts, odds in past races, where they raced etc etc and it usually takes me about 45mins. last night i was at it for an hour and a half and was only thru race 6. Like i said does anyone out there look at a card like this get overwhelmed?

my thoughts exactly, almost seems like more of a sit back and watch the impending show kind of card, it's that good. And, scarred money don't do any good in those pools. PK4's for me will be chopped to DD's and exacta's as i legitimately have 6+ possible winners in each race

best of luck today all

-bt-