Delta Jackpot takes on importance this year

[cakes44]

It is actually only 2 turns, but run out of a chute I think?

Originally Posted by cakes44

It is actually only 2 turns, but run out of a chute I think?

I believe you are correct. Thanks for the info.

[SentToStud]

* I used to go to Delta when I lived in Houston circa 1980.

* Home track of Hallowed Dreams a LA bred who won 16 straight races.

* In 1990, Sylvester Carmouche finished first in a two-turn race started at the 1/8 pole which was run in very heavy fog. Only problem was that he stopped his horse just out of the gate and started "riding" when the rest of the field was coming around the stretch turn. Ole Sly got a 10 year vacation for that ride and served eight years. He was, ironically, Hallowed Dreams regular jock.

Here's a link to the fog race.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...57C0A966958260

The vote to suspend Carmouche was 7-1. I wonder who that 1 person was that voted against the suspension and the reasoning.

[Nascar1966]

I would do it to resemble something like how the top seven horses get in the Breeders Cup races. Make up a point system for graded stake races. This should reward the horses who consistently perform in the top two and three year old races before the Derby. Im sure there might be a horse or two who will get enough points as a two year old, but do nothing as a three year old. No system is without its flaws.


Anyone else have some input on this?

[Linny]

My suggestion would be a point system. Graded earnings are worth points but G1's worth more than G2's etc. Also route races would count for more than sprints and 3yo races would be worth more than 2yo races.

Honestly, I really don't think the system is flawed right now, as long as owners are fair and don't take advantage of it. The owner of a speedy sprinter with no route graded earning but plenty of 2yo form and $$$ in sprints could prevent a contender from getting in. This just doesn't happen that often.
For the most part, the horses in the Derby are the ones that belong there and the ones "kept out" by the rules (RHT for example) are usually out for a reason. Lets face it, every trainer knows the rules. If they skip races and cherry pick their spots or play games with the colt's schedule, they run the risk of being bumped.

Originally Posted by Linny

My suggestion would be a point system. Graded earnings are worth pints but G1's worth more than G2's etc. Also route races would count for more than sprints and 3yo races would be worth more than 2yo races.

Honestly, I really don't think the system is flawed right now, as long as owners are fair and don't take advantage of it. The owner of a speedy sprinter with no route graded earning but plenty of 2yo form and $$$ in sprints could prevent a contender from getting in. This just doesn't happen that often.
For the most part, the horses in the Derby are the ones that belong there and the ones "kept out" but the rules (RHT for example) are usually out for a reason. Lets face it, every trainer knows the rules. If they skip races and cherry pick their spots or play games with the colt's schedule, the run the risk of being bumped.

There are all sorts of ways you can use to come up with the Derby field. However, there really hasnt been a horse that was left off that really had a shot at winning the derby. If the horse does get left off because of earning, then it is doubtful that the horse would have enough points earned.

[Linny]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

The vote to suspend Carmouche was 7-1. I wonder who that 1 person was that voted against the suspension and the reasoning.

Only in Louisiana.