Barbaro 3yr old of the year

[2MinsToPost]

Whatever happened to being consistent and around all year battling the best? It is not Barbaro's fault that he got hurt but my God when does it stop? Dini battled all year, stayed healthy and yet got beat by Invasor. Barbaro battled in the Spring, won the Derby but got hurt. Shiat happens, HoY goes to some horse other then Barbaro and please don't feel sorry for the connections when they don't win HoY cause they have the Derby in their back pocket do they not? Move on.

Originally Posted by 2MinsToPost

Whatever happened to being consistent and around all year battling the best? It is not Barbaro's fault that he got hurt but my God when does it stop? Dini battled all year, stayed healthy and yet got beat by Invasor. Barbaro battled in the Spring, won the Derby but got hurt. Shiat happens, HoY goes to some horse other then Barbaro and please don't feel sorry for the connections when they don't win HoY cause they have the Derby in their back pocket do they not? Move on.

Curt,
bernadini ABSOLUTELY earned this award. No doubt.
But I think we are far enough removed from the BCC for the folks who drank the Kool Aid on bernadini to realize that they had been had.
I never said Bern wasn't very good, because any idiot could see what he was, which was exactly that.
He can and should win this award by a landslide.
I think some folks are lashing out against dini due to being embarassed over wearing the purple sneakers and buying the hype about all time great bs.
But hop over to the other thread where Hoily Bull, Cigar, easy Goer, Sunday Silence, Alysheba, Skip Away, Formal Gold, etc are being discussed, guy was even cool enough to post the beyer Figs for those horses.
You'll see that he couldn't have warmed those horses up.

[sumitas]

i'd rate his fla derby right up there with the Cigar mile as one of the greatest races of the year.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by sumitas

i'd rate his fla derby right up there with the Cigar mile as one of the greatest races of the year.

Who can possibly argue with that?

The second place finisher in the Florida Derby, Sharp Humor ( who lost by a head or neck ), also ran in the Cigar Mile.

I'm going to hop on the A Train out to Aqueduct now and catch him finishing.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Who can possibly argue with that?

The second place finisher in the Florida Derby, Sharp Humor ( who lost by a head or neck ), also ran in the Cigar Mile.

I'm going to hop on the A Train out to Aqueduct now and catch him finishing.

take your time...no hurry.

[sumitas]

Sharp Humor reinjured his knee after opening up a 4 length lead in the Cigar.

[Danzig]

well, hate to hear a horse got hurt....but it's hard enough to know if a horse got injured during, or after a race--yet you know that it happened after he opened up this lead?

[MLC]

I loved Barbaro, and if I were voting I probably would give him the sentimental vote. But reason and rational thinking should rule; Bernardini accomplished enough to be considered the 3 year old of the year.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by MLC

I loved Barbaro, and if I were voting I probably would give him the sentimental vote. But reason and rational thinking should rule; Bernardini accomplished enough to be considered the 3 year old of the year.

barbaro update:

http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/tod...68032&subsec=1

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by merasmag

i thought it would be in today's bloodhorse but i guess it'll be in tomorrow's...unfortunately, to me, they seem to sound less optimistic as the weeks wear on about the laminitis...but, wher'dja here about the time thing? and that's what i mean about HOY---u want more fans??? name the mf hoy

what is the time thing you're talking about?
eclipses are in january, always have been. it's a done deal anyway, invasor gets hoy and top older.

as for the laminitis, i think they sound pretty optimistic. especially considering when they first detected it, they gave barbaro a 5% chance.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by merasmag

sorry...meant si...........i'm doin this in a bar ya know

meras, we need to have a meeting of the Chicago chapter of Derbytrail at this bar with the internet access.

you can organize this?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

meras, we need to have a meeting of the Chicago chapter of Derbytrail at this bar with the internet access.

you can organize this?

do you really want to type on a keyboard in a BAR?! lol

lapdances with the laptops....

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by merasmag

sorry...meant si...........i'm doin this in a bar ya know

ok, i'm lost.

[Danzig]

gotcha.
and it's bear, unless you're a dancer, and then it's bare.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by merasmag

I think some folks are lashing out against dini due to being embarassed over wearing the purple sneakers and buying the hype about all time great bs.

i have nothing to be embarrassed about, u can search high and low and you'll never find a thread where i say bernardini is anywhere near as good as barbaro was, and as to the racing all year crap...........against who? i like bernardini but if i was voting i'd pick at least 2 other horses against him in ANY category

bernardini ended the year with more graded wins than barbaro. more grade ones. won the travers over bluegrass cat, who was second to barbaro in the preakness. altho not a stellar field, bernie won the jcgc over older, a sure prerequisite to winning top 3 yo. than he ran second to only invasor in the bcc. he absolutely deserves the top 3 yo award for '06. has nothing to do with who's better. that question is unanswerable.

thankfully, barbaro is still around to generate all this talk. they have an update on him today, he's doing wonderfully, a much greater reward than any eclipse. i see a special eclipse for him and his owners in january. sports illustrated voted his vet (and a sexy beast ) as their man of the year.

as for discussion of the gate crew, it was all over this joint after the preakness.. perhaps those who brought it up will tell you who they were. i know you weren't around here at that time.

[Danzig]

you're right twomins....barbaro wasn't able to compete all year. bernardini, unlike in some years past, was able to compete, and well at that, all year. a season of wins bookended by his only two losses. he did plenty enough to get the nod.
was barbaro better? we'll never, ever know. we might think so, or not. but we won't know.

had bernie not been so consistent all year, than yes, the argument could be made for barbaro. he's a tough bastard, game as the year is long, his survival shows that.
i'd rather see a horse who did what bernie did win, than a horse who only runs part of the year...can't help but wonder if some from years past would have started again had another 3 yo started putting a streak of wins together and could challenge an early part of the year star.