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Old 03-31-2014, 10:24 AM
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Allegations will cease when the use of buzzers ceases. Lifetime ban for first offense, end of story.

That's the answer. Of all of the damning footage in the PETA video was the smug, pompous, discourse between Stevens and Lukas regarding the use of these things, as if there is utter and complete disregard for the fact that people actually wager money on the outcomes of these races - was by far the worse in my opinion.
They joke and carry on about it as though it's all about collecting a check - how that is done, regardless of the manner in which it negatively impacts the health of the sport, is not even on their collective radar.

This is not an indictment of either man, more the culture they exist in.

I guess the horse racing industry in general perceives it is a two edged sword - having to admit it goes on is the first step in correcting it, and they have thus far been unable or unwilling to take that step.
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Old 03-31-2014, 11:44 AM
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Richard Strauss got a lengthy suspension in the mid 80s for getting caught with a buzzer at Sportsmans. He tried to petition for re-instatement around 2000 but was denied. I think he died a few years later.

I agree with the earlier comment. Allegations will cease when their use ceases. The buzzer allegations were definitely the most damaging allegations thrown out by PETA.
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Old 03-31-2014, 12:40 PM
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Richard Strauss got a lengthy suspension in the mid 80s for getting caught with a buzzer at Sportsmans. He tried to petition for re-instatement around 2000 but was denied. I think he died a few years later.

I agree with the earlier comment. Allegations will cease when their use ceases. The buzzer allegations were definitely the most damaging allegations thrown out by PETA.
I guess I'm in the minority, but I viewed it as two racetrackers reminiscing over the "good ole days" at Ruidoso and laughing about how rampant those devices were used back then.

Total different ball of wax had they been talking/laughing about (for example) the 2013 Gulfstream meet, imo. Then, I'd be alarmed. Hell, I wouldn't drop another dime into the windows ever again.

I picked up this sport in 2004 with knowledge of some of the "cliches" attached to it. All boils down to how much policing the "powers-that-be" want to implement.
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Old 03-31-2014, 01:59 PM
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I guess I'm in the minority, but I viewed it as two racetrackers reminiscing over the "good ole days" at Ruidoso and laughing about how rampant those devices were used back then.

Total different ball of wax had they been talking/laughing about (for example) the 2013 Gulfstream meet, imo. Then, I'd be alarmed. Hell, I wouldn't drop another dime into the windows ever again.

I picked up this sport in 2004 with knowledge of some of the "cliches" attached to it. All boils down to how much policing the "powers-that-be" want to implement.
I took it this way too, kind of like when the jockeys speak of the rough riding growing up on fair circuits.
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Old 04-01-2014, 12:36 PM
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how about some of the cool terms they used to use / still use.
battery Boy comes to mind. he's pluggin him in today. he's got the buzza
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