'Horseplayers' on ESQ TV -- Debuts 1/21, 10p ET

[pweizer]

I hate to admit it, but I am actually enjoying it. He doesn't come across well but people would learn a lot about contest play by watching Helmers. The rest have no clue how to play, especially in live money events. I wish I had a dollar for every time Cox says that this contest isn't really his game or strong suit for sure and his betting is just comical.

With all of the flaws though, it is a pretty fair representation of what playing in a contest is like and it is fun to watch.

Paul

[South Beach Luv]

Originally Posted by pweizer

I hate to admit it, but I am actually enjoying it. He doesn't come across well but people would learn a lot about contest play by watching Helmers. The rest have no clue how to play, especially in live money events. I wish I had a dollar for every time Cox says that this contest isn't really his game or strong suit for sure and his betting is just comical.

With all of the flaws though, it is a pretty fair representation of what playing in a contest is like and it is fun to watch.

Paul

So you're saying betting a $3 TRI 6x5x7 with hopes of breaking even isn't the way to go?

[pweizer]

Originally Posted by South Beach Luv

So you're saying betting a $3 TRI 6x5x7 with hopes of breaking even isn't the way to go?

Pretty much. Although that is better than betting $100 to show on all horses like he did at Del Mar thinking it will move him way up the leader board.

Paul

[Pants II]

For a reality show this is real good stuff.

Christian Hellmers will change the rules of tournaments. And in that regard he is a force to be reckoned with.

The explanation given for trying to "team up" was for entertainment purposes. I'm of the opinion that it isn't a good look to show two of the more recognized tournament players plotting to team up to win a tournament.

That will scare the easiest of marks away.

The goal should be to entice as many people as possible. That way the jackpots can expand.

I don't expect any of this to actually happen.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by pweizer

Pretty much. Although that is better than betting $100 to show on all horses like he did at Del Mar thinking it will move him way up the leader board.

Paul

His 6 x6xAll tri this week made me laugh. He did hit it for 10x the bet but 6K Trifectas are few and far between.

[asudevil]

After 5 or 6 episodes it just feels like the same story in different venues. Not saying that learning about tournament play/strategies isn't fascinating...It is.

The Brooklyn cowboy's schtick gets old. He knows it all.

Beychock seems like a cool, aw-shucks type of guy.

Matt's role needs more attention in my opinion. Would have liked to have seen how he hooks up with the ex-governor's daughter after the day at Keeneland.

The father/son duo are fun to watch. But how many times will we see them slapping the programs, in perfect cadence, against their hands?

Conte is another one who hardly gets any play. His dry humor is terrific, as well as his old school approach. I'd love to sit at Don Pepe's with him and hear his countless stories. (all while schmearing the bread in the clams oreganata broth)

Helmers is the show. I get it. His tournament play is so unique and he resembles Brad Pitt.

[pucknut]

if i had the motivation
i would film a qualifer at my local otb and interview all characters and contestants it would be real raw and without the orchestration but it would be fkg hilarious
Conte is the show for me thats a horse player
christian is FOS i am sure he syndicated his bid at the boy toy auction
who with half a brain and an ounce of self respect does that

[ateamstupid]

I'm convinced Hellmers would've sold for way more at the bachelor auction if he didn't do that horrible imitation of the Dougie.