2013-2014 NBA Season

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

OKC is the best team, but they are not that much better then Houston or GS IMO. Also I dont really believe in the Clippers, but they match up very well with OKC.

I'm not buying any of that. GS causes some match up problems, the other teams not so much. If you want to base anything on how they are playing right now with Westbrook rusty as hell, you're making a mistake.

OKC swept the Clippers last year. This year they had a nice lead before Ibaka was wrongly ejected (they even rescinded the technical later), thrashed them next time, then there was Sunday. If I had to pick one team that could beat them in the West in a 7 game series, it would be Golden State, and then next maybe Memphis if they even make it. I'd be surprised if the Clippers did, and shocked if Houston did.

I guess you can't really can't out the Spurs, though they look bad against the Thunder for two years now. But the playoffs are different, and they have Pop.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

I'm not buying any of that. GS causes some match up problems, the other teams not so much. If you want to base anything on how they are playing right now with Westbrook rusty as hell, you're making a mistake.

OKC swept the Clippers last year. This year they had a nice lead before Ibaka was wrongly ejected (they even rescinded the technical later), thrashed them next time, then there was Sunday. If I had to pick one team that could beat them in the West in a 7 game series, it would be Golden State, and then next maybe Memphis if they even make it. I'd be surprised if the Clippers did, and shocked if Houston did.

I guess you can't really can't out the Spurs, though they look bad against the Thunder for two years now. But the playoffs are different, and they have Pop.

I think the Spurs amazing run is over. This is not like the East where there are literally only 2 teams. 6 teams can win the West and Golden St, last year gave the Spurs a real run as a huge underdog. I rank SA 6th most likely team to win the West, I guess they can still do it, but I doubt it.
I know your an OKC fan, but Westbrook is world class. These issues are not going to go away because Westbrook is an alpha. He wants to be the man. They were actually better without him. When I said Houston was the best in the West, I said right now. 9-1 in there last 10. That could change though, I think it was 6 weeks ago when GS had won like 12 in a row. If the West playoffs started today, I think OKC would go out round 2 to the Clippers. Thats just my opinion though.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I know your an OKC fan, but Westbrook is world class. These issues are not going to go away because Westbrook is an alpha. He wants to be the man. They were actually better without him. When I said Houston was the best in the West, I said right now. 9-1 in there last 10. That could change though, I think it was 6 weeks ago when GS had won like 12 in a row. If the West playoffs started today, I think OKC would go out round 2 to the Clippers. Thats just my opinion though.

This is the stuff that is just silly. You watch too much First Take I guess. Before going out at Christmas, Westbrook was playing the best basketball of his life and racking up assists. He has no problem deferring when it is warranted. They were 21-4 with Westbrook, but they were better without him? Come on, short memories.

The biggest problem the Thunder have is they still trot out two guys to start that are horrible on offense, and they often dig a hole for themselves because of it. Good teams exploit those two. They totally ignore Perkins, and only pay a little attention to Thabo. It is tough to change until next year, because those guys still need to play minutes. If you make them bench players, you will virtually never score with the second unit. KD/Russ can overcome them somewhat, Reggie and Lamb, not so much.

Little known fact, Perkins almost NEVER is on the court without KD. Brooks tries to hide his total lack of any offensive skill.

[cmorioles]

The Knicks stink, but it isn't because of Carmelo.

Did you guys see the Knicks passed up a 1st round pick for Shumpert from OKC? Granted, it would be a late pick, but they apparently wanted a player back for a "playoff push". Now that is hilarious.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

The Knicks stink, but it isn't because of Carmelo.

Did you guys see the Knicks passed up a 1st round pick for Shumpert from OKC? Granted, it would be a late pick, but they apparently wanted a player back for a "playoff push". Now that is hilarious.

James Dolan is the gift that keeps on giving.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

James Dolan is the gift that keeps on giving.

Stop.
You want the 28th pick or Shump?
I want Shump and Hardaway and no one else on that roster.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Stop.
You want the 28th pick or Shump?
I want Shump and Hardaway and no one else on that roster.

I'm ambivalent about Shumpert. He has not played well this season but some of that can be blamed on him being hurt. But he is always hurt so yeah I wouldn't be that upset over moving him for a late 1st rounder. He is a really good on and off the ball defender but his offense has been erratic and he could probably benefit from a change of scenery.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

The Knicks stink, but it isn't because of Carmelo.

Did you guys see the Knicks passed up a 1st round pick for Shumpert from OKC? Granted, it would be a late pick, but they apparently wanted a player back for a "playoff push". Now that is hilarious.

You would love that trade. That trade would make OKC that much better. A borderline great defender for guys like Harden, Curry and THompson. Athletic young kid. Im glad NY held on to him.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

You would love that trade. That trade would make OKC that much better. A borderline great defender for guys like Harden, Curry and THompson. Athletic young kid. Im glad NY held on to him.

I don't know, kind of just a younger Thabo if you ask me, with less size.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

I don't know, kind of just a younger Thabo if you ask me, with less size.

Pretty much but little cheaper replacement with a little more upside.

[Duvalier]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

Little known fact, Perkins almost NEVER is on the court without KD. Brooks tries to hide his total lack of any offensive skill.

The Thunder won't have to worry about that for a while

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.c...-groin-injury/

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

This is the stuff that is just silly. You watch too much First Take I guess. Before going out at Christmas, Westbrook was playing the best basketball of his life and racking up assists. He has no problem deferring when it is warranted. They were 21-4 with Westbrook, but they were better without him? Come on, short memories.

The biggest problem the Thunder have is they still trot out two guys to start that are horrible on offense, and they often dig a hole for themselves because of it. Good teams exploit those two. They totally ignore Perkins, and only pay a little attention to Thabo. It is tough to change until next year, because those guys still need to play minutes. If you make them bench players, you will virtually never score with the second unit. KD/Russ can overcome them somewhat, Reggie and Lamb, not so much.

Little known fact, Perkins almost NEVER is on the court without KD. Brooks tries to hide his total lack of any offensive skill.

Honestly I do like First Take, but because of work I can only watch it on Thursdays. I think OKC is the team to beat, I just dont think its by that much.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Honestly I do like First Take, but because of work I can only watch it on Thursdays. I think OKC is the team to beat, I just dont think its by that much.

You sound like Skip Bayless when talking about Westbrook. I used to watch, but I can't do it any longer. Those guys just spew crap to create controversy, it is never based in fact.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

You sound like Skip Bayless when talking about Westbrook. I used to watch, but I can't do it any longer. Those guys just spew crap to create controversy, it is never based in fact.

What part exactly is not true? I was wrong about Westbrook early on. I thought he was a bum. Hes not. He is a top 10 player in the NBA and a supremely gifted athlete. You don’t think he wants to be the guy? He is the definition of a combo guard, he a shoot first guard.