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Old 11-27-2006, 09:02 AM
blackthroatedwind blackthroatedwind is offline
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Andy, you seem to like to attack the college kids so maybe you can help me understand your post.

You loved Showing Up's maiden win and gushed about it on the TT Forum. Well he won his maiden at Gulfstream this year because he was lame as a two year old and Barclay couldn't get him to the track. Was their a TT Forum in February of this year?

Also, I am not sure how you would know he was going to be a great turf horse based on his maiden race on the dirt. Are you so good you just knew this or are you just a pedigree expert that knew Strategic Mission was a great turf sire? LOL.

For the record, and I believe I had to correct some false information about Showing Up that was discussed on a radioshow you often appear on, Barclay only switched him to the turf to avoid Barbaro. While Barclay owns another Strategic Mission, Stratonic, who runs on the grass, except when Tim Walters trains him on the woodchips at Fairhill, Showing Up likely would have stayed on the dirt because that is where the money is. He probably would have been a West Virginia Derby type horse and racked up money in good spots, where Barclay is an expert at finding them. Barbaro and Showing Up's problems as a 2yr old and even his minor injuries at 3 (turf is a little easier on horses-which most already know) were basically what made the turf the way to go. $1,000,000 didn't hurt either.

For those that would like to watch his maiden win, which impressed the connections, but it was actually his win over the highly regarded Chatain and Flanders Fields that made people believers, you can watch it here.

http://www.kentuckyderby.com/2006/de...howing_up/#top

Hang on a second, you aren't doing what I think you are, you aren't suggesting I made up the story about posting on a message board about liking Showing Up after his maiden win? That's not possible. Even you can't be THAT ridiculous.

Dude, obviously I know the Thoroughbred Times shut their board down long before 2006. I also know, and apparently you don't, but in your usual false bravado feel compelled to continuously talk about that which you don't know as though you are an authority, that people from that board formed another board and most of the posters from TT migrated there. Many of those posters are here, Philski and King Glorious come to mind, and can confirm this for you....and also probably my Showing Up thoughts if you're that desperate for proof. But, seriously dude, it's hardly a claim in need of validation. Why would I lie about that? Think about it.

As for correcting something from a show " I appear on ", as though somehow you are now saying anything associated with that show is tied to me, call them up and give them the straight dope if you like. I'm sure they would appreciate it. As for me, I understand why he went to the turf, as I understand as clearly as possible the value of dirt Graded stakes wins versus turf ones.

The " correcting college kids " line makes no sense, by the way, as on this board everyone is just a name. Your posts define you.
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Old 11-27-2006, 11:49 AM
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Hang on a second, you aren't doing what I think you are, you aren't suggesting I made up the story about posting on a message board about liking Showing Up after his maiden win? That's not possible. Even you can't be THAT ridiculous.

Dude, obviously I know the Thoroughbred Times shut their board down long before 2006. I also know, and apparently you don't, but in your usual false bravado feel compelled to continuously talk about that which you don't know as though you are an authority, that people from that board formed another board and most of the posters from TT migrated there. Many of those posters are here, Philski and King Glorious come to mind, and can confirm this for you....and also probably my Showing Up thoughts if you're that desperate for proof. But, seriously dude, it's hardly a claim in need of validation. Why would I lie about that? Think about it.

As for correcting something from a show " I appear on ", as though somehow you are now saying anything associated with that show is tied to me, call them up and give them the straight dope if you like. I'm sure they would appreciate it. As for me, I understand why he went to the turf, as I understand as clearly as possible the value of dirt Graded stakes wins versus turf ones.

The " correcting college kids " line makes no sense, by the way, as on this board everyone is just a name. Your posts define you.
Not that you need it to confirm the d*ckless attack about the "TT Forum" but I know as well as many others do, even though it's no longer the "official" TT Forum it's the same gang and most even call it the TT Forum.

And I actually watched a replay of Showing Up's maiden win after BTW had talked about it, along with another unnamed person gushing over Bernardini's maiden win around the same time (well, a broken clock is right twice a day in that person's case...)

Why is it that everyone desires to attack each other? I mean we all AGREE on this one, for christ's sakes!
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Old 11-27-2006, 11:57 AM
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Not that you need it to confirm the d*ckless attack about the "TT Forum" but I know as well as many others do, even though it's no longer the "official" TT Forum it's the same gang and most even call it the TT Forum.

And I actually watched a replay of Showing Up's maiden win after BTW had talked about it, along with another unnamed person gushing over Bernardini's maiden win around the same time (well, a broken clock is right twice a day in that person's case...)

Why is it that everyone desires to attack each other? I mean we all AGREE on this one, for christ's sakes!
Yeah we do agree. Noone has anything but good to say about Barbaro or Showing Up here.
Problem is we have a guy who thinks hes "wired in" to the inside of everything who always has to try and one up everyone, even in celebration of wins.
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Old 11-27-2006, 12:03 PM
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Yeah we do agree. Noone has anything but good to say about Barbaro or Showing Up here.
Problem is we have a guy who thinks hes "wired in" to the inside of everything who always has to try and one up everyone, even in celebration of wins.
His only mission is to cause trouble, you have to believe that.
i would disregard anything he says. Flamer only.
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