2014 admission hikes for Belmont, Saratoga: GA $5, Clubhouse $8

[Payson Dave]

The spinners on give-away days at the Spa are going to be bummed...they don't contribute much to the handle but they sure enhance the attendance figs.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Payson Dave

The spinners on give-away days at the Spa are going to be bummed...they don't contribute much to the handle but they sure enhance the attendance figs.

Good point. Attendance at NYRA is sort of a flawed stat because of spinners. NYRA's attendance figures are greatly impacted by potential Triple Crown on Belmont day and weekend spinners at Saratoga.

If Honor Code is undefeated and going for the Triple Crown and 135000 people show up for Belmont day the increase will be labeled a good idea. If we have another spotty TC season and a weak giveaway or two at Saratoga the idea will be labeled a failure.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Good point. Attendance at NYRA is sort of a flawed stat because of spinners. NYRA's attendance figures are greatly impacted by potential Triple Crown on Belmont day and weekend spinners at Saratoga.

If Honor Code is undefeated and going for the Triple Crown and 135000 people show up for Belmont day the increase will be labeled a good idea. If we have another spotty TC season and a weak giveaway or two at Saratoga the idea will be labeled a failure.

Isnt this all about dressing up NYRA so it is more attractive to a potential buyer?

[pointman]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Isnt this all about dressing up NYRA so it is more attractive to a potential buyer?

It is all about Cuomo trying to find a way to cast NYRA off on its own after his coup of seizing NYRA properties to build his casinos while taking away the slots money so he and his criminal cronies can frivolously spend more money all while claiming that the horse racing industry can stand on its own feet to try to avoid the negative backlash of stripping the casino money.

Cuomo does not care what happens to the industry as long as he can get rid of it without egg on his face. He is an embarrassment to this State.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by pointman

It is all about Cuomo trying to find a way to cast NYRA off on its own after his coup of seizing NYRA properties to build his casinos while taking away the slots money so he and his criminal cronies can frivolously spend more money all while claiming that the horse racing industry can stand on its own feet to try to avoid the negative backlash of stripping the casino money.

Cuomo does not care what happens to the industry as long as he can get rid of it without egg on his face. He is an embarrassment to this State.

While I agree with the spirit of the post I think this is less nefarious. If you are looking to sell something you dress it up. To me this has nothing to do with it being a Premier product like some think and being worth more. I think its fair to charge whatever the market will bare and I think its fine to earn. I think neither is at work here.. To me this is window dressing pure and simple

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by freddymo

While I agree with the spirit of the post I think this is less nefarious. If you are looking to sell something you dress it up. To me this has nothing to do with it being a Premier product like some think and being worth more. I think its fair to charge whatever the market will bare and I think its fine to earn. I think neither is at work here.. To me this is window dressing pure and simple

NYRA isnt going to be sold. They are looking to put management back into private hands but the land is now the states and who in their right mind would pay to manage NYRA with no slot revenues, no land ownership, political instability, an unknown decision concerning OTB's in NYC, properties in need of repair, massive pension liabilities, etc.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Isnt this all about dressing up NYRA so it is more attractive to a potential buyer?

In theory.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

In theory.

I can see an overseas bookmaking company buying NYRA. They can stand losing money while they hope America becomes more open to sports betting. Didn't Betfair do this with TVG? The real estate (not literally) is worth a lot, considering just how much money is wagered at 11/10 illegally.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by freddymo

I can see an overseas bookmaking company buying NYRA. They can stand losing money while they hope America becomes more open to sports betting. Didn't Betfair do this with TVG? The real estate (not literally) is worth a lot, considering just how much money is wagered at 11/10 illegally.

I dont believe that the land is for sale.

Why would you believe that if sports betting comes to pass that the state will just hand it over to NYRA?

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I dont believe that the land is for sale.

Why would you believe that if sports betting comes to pass that the state will just hand it over to NYRA?

Not talking about the physical land.. Talking about the gambling landscape and the potential to be the the first ones to operate a book in NYC