Weekend Stakes Beyers

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Thanks.

Listening to Dorf speak is kind of funny.

Conservative in what he says, and sounds like he's straight out of the 1950s.

As for the horse, I'm guessing they really didn't think too much of him until he ran.

I think the point of the sale was Wygod doesnt race geldings. Not if they liked the horse

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by freddymo

I think the point of the sale was Wygod doesnt race geldings. Not if they liked the horse

well, if they don't want to race geldings, why would they geld a horse they own? that seems....odd.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by Danzig

well, if they don't want to race geldings, why would they geld a horse they own? that seems....odd.

Often the farm calls and tells you that a colt is unmanageable. They are jumping fences to get at fillies.. becoming dangerous to handle.. etc.. Leaves no choice.

[Indian Charlie]

Yes, but how often do horses that are thought to be extremely talented and have very nice pedigrees actually get gelded?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Yes, but how often do horses that are thought to be extremely talented and have very nice pedigrees actually get gelded?

probably more than you'd think. they can't live up to their talent if they won't keep their mind on their work.
would kelso and forgo have been kelso and forgo if they weren't gelded? their trainers said probably not.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Danzig

probably more than you'd think. they can't live up to their talent if they won't keep their mind on their work.
would kelso and forgo have been kelso and forgo if they weren't gelded? their trainers said probably not.

Really? I almost never ever see that.

Remember, not only does the horse have to be well pedigreed, but also he has to be highly thought of.

I can't remember the last top class well bred gelding, other than maybe a horse like commentator, who was sired by an unknown sire (at the time, DH was not highly thought of).

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Really? I almost never ever see that.

Remember, not only does the horse have to be well pedigreed, but also he has to be highly thought of.

I can't remember the last top class well bred gelding, other than maybe a horse like commentator, who was sired by an unknown sire (at the time, DH was not highly thought of).

i think that these days people hesitate to geld, and they are doing wrong, because everyone thinks they have the next seattle slew. many intact horses won't reach their potential because they won't put their mind to racing--and why would you want to breed untractable horses?
but i've seen well bred geldings in racing forms, and we've seen horses tail off and they geld to see if it will fix them.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Often the farm calls and tells you that a colt is unmanageable. They are jumping fences to get at fillies.. becoming dangerous to handle.. etc.. Leaves no choice.

yeah, i get why it's done.
i guess i just don't understand why they'd have an issue racing a gelding. at least they get more of a chance to show what they can do.