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Old 11-04-2013, 09:54 AM
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I'd suggest there were plenty...

She's A Tiger - who deserves an Eclipse after a great campaign - she's maybe a full length away from an undefeated season and 3 G1s wins.

Agreed on Za Approval, Havana, Will Take Charge...

Alterite ran a huge race in the F&M Turf

But my overall winner for "most impressive loser" is absolutely, positively Declaration of War. The inside scoop over the course of the week was expecting he was going to break slow (as he has in the past) would force Joseph to keep him outside and lose ground, but he'd be out of the kickback. O'Brien was leery of his work at Southwell two weeks out where they thought he didn't get enough kickback in case he ended up inside. It was Joseph's first mount on dirt, EVER...he's 6'4" and when I saw him early in the week, he'd pass for a marathon-running banker.

The boys of Ballydoyle walked away from the Classic just about as fulfilled as any losing connection possibly could. His performance validated the pedigree, their planning, the belief he could compete in this race, and his potential universality as a sire. Tough to find a more "winning" loser than Declaration of War.
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Old 11-04-2013, 09:58 AM
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What a bloody shock you chose a Euro.
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Old 11-04-2013, 10:13 AM
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What a bloody shock you chose a Euro.
Or you could look at it objectively and recognize his performance was a phenomenal one in defeat...
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Old 11-04-2013, 10:17 AM
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Or you could look at it objectively and recognize his performance was a phenomenal one in defeat...
I can...the idea that it was the most impressive horse in defeat is hard to imagine over the course of 2 days...I always feel that Euros in general have short man's syndrome in a big way. It was evident way back on the ESPN board as well. It is an illness.
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Old 11-04-2013, 10:50 AM
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Or you could look at it objectively and recognize his performance was a phenomenal one in defeat...
I thought Joe gave him a great trip. He just didn't look good doing it.
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Old 11-04-2013, 11:36 AM
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Or you could look at it objectively and recognize his performance was a phenomenal one in defeat...
Hard for me to say it was better than Will Take Charge. He ran well, but so did Za Approval and many others. I'd probably pick a few more over him if based strictly on the thread title.
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Old 11-04-2013, 11:01 AM
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I'd suggest there were plenty...

She's A Tiger - who deserves an Eclipse after a great campaign - she's maybe a full length away from an undefeated season and 3 G1s wins.

Agreed on Za Approval, Havana, Will Take Charge...

Alterite ran a huge race in the F&M Turf

But my overall winner for "most impressive loser" is absolutely, positively Declaration of War. The inside scoop over the course of the week was expecting he was going to break slow (as he has in the past) would force Joseph to keep him outside and lose ground, but he'd be out of the kickback. O'Brien was leery of his work at Southwell two weeks out where they thought he didn't get enough kickback in case he ended up inside. It was Joseph's first mount on dirt, EVER...he's 6'4" and when I saw him early in the week, he'd pass for a marathon-running banker.

The boys of Ballydoyle walked away from the Classic just about as fulfilled as any losing connection possibly could. His performance validated the pedigree, their planning, the belief he could compete in this race, and his potential universality as a sire. Tough to find a more "winning" loser than Declaration of War.
They kept saying he was 6' on television, they shorted him 4" inches I guess.
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Old 11-04-2013, 11:07 AM
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They kept saying he was 6' on television, they shorted him 4" inches I guess.
Fun with numbers. I doubt he's 6 foot, let alone 6' 4"...
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Old 11-04-2013, 11:14 AM
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I believe he's 5' 11"
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Old 11-04-2013, 11:23 AM
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i'd have to give the nod to will take charge.
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Old 11-04-2013, 11:24 AM
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I believe he's 5' 11"
but 6' 4" In Europe, jumps tall buildings etc...
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Old 11-04-2013, 11:38 AM
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Will Take Charge.....

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Old 11-04-2013, 12:15 PM
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She's a Tiger looked great to me.
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Old 11-04-2013, 12:18 PM
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She's a Tiger looked great to me.
The problem with that pick is visually and figure wise that race came up unbearably slow. For a juvy filly fig winner it is probably 10-15 Beyer points off par for the race.
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Old 11-04-2013, 12:38 PM
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The problem with that pick is visually and figure wise that race came up unbearably slow. For a juvy filly fig winner it is probably 10-15 Beyer points off par for the race.
I'll take this to mean you'll be against Ria Antonia when she attempts to take on the colts as was reported after the race...owner said goal was first SATURDAY in may.

Worth noting that I read where Englehart wanted to take the POS path to May.

Either owner or trainer aren't on the same page or someone needs to let them know that the POS route won't get them into the derby.
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