the nsa

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

I think it is terrific. And if they could do it to us, they would be. False tears

agree...and word has it that they are doing it...

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by bigrun

agree...and word has it that they are doing it...

I agree 100%. I think all the big countries are spying on each other. We are probably the best at it but that's no reason to hate us. The main reason other countries are so angry is because they can't spy as good as we can.

[Rudeboyelvis]

The ire isn't directed against the NSA solely because they spy on other countries - as been said this has been going on since spying began. It is more directed toward the completely unrestrained cowboy methodology that the NSA has decided to empower itself with, and the complete lack of accountability by this failed administration to do anything at all about it. In Obama's sworn oath, he pledged to "uphold the Constitution of the United States"... well, so much for that.

From Eschatonblog.com:

"So, for the top national security official in the United States to go to the Senate and lie to their faces and deny that the NSA is doing exactly that which our reporting proved that the NSA was in fact doing is plainly a crime, and of course he should be prosecuted, and would be prosecuted if we lived under anything resembling the rule of law, where everybody is held and treated equally under the law, regardless of position or prestige. Of course, we don’t have that kind of system, which is why no Wall Street executives have been prosecuted, no top-level Bush officials were prosecuted for torture or warrantless eavesdropping, and why James Clapper hasn’t been prosecuted despite telling an overt lie to Congress. And what’s even more amazing, though, Amy*, is that not only has James Clapper not been prosecuted, he hasn’t even lost his job. He’s still the director of national intelligence many months after his lie was revealed, because there is no accountability for the top-level people in Washington.

And the final thing to say about that is, there’s all kinds of American journalists who love to go on television and accuse Edward Snowden of committing all these grave and horrible crimes. They’re so brave when it comes to declaring Edward Snowden to be a criminal and calling for [inaudible]. Not one of them has ever gone on television and said, "James Clapper committed crimes, and he ought to be prosecuted." The question that you just asked journalistically is such an important and obvious one, yet not—none of the David Gregorys or Jeffrey Toobins or all these American journalists who fancy themselves as aggressive, tough reporters, would ever dare utter the idea that James Clapper ought to be arrested or prosecuted for the crimes that he committed, because they’re there to serve those interests and not to challenge or be adversarial to them."


* Comment directed toward Amy Goodman, an award winning journalist from Democracy Now! who's interview with Glen Greenwald can be seen here:

http://www.democracynow.org/2013/10/...ying_on_allies

[bigrun]

I hacked into the NSA feed and found this...not bad