What did we learn...Pre BC?

[asudevil]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Raw times are meaningless, especially over different years, and confusing people by suggesting otherwise does no good....and harms the uninitiated that don't understand that.

In order to improve fan understanding of the game, the last thing we need to do is mislead them, and comments like that are misleading.

Would love to hear a possible explanation from Glen Kozak. More specifically, a technical discussion to help people understand the nuances of track maintenance.

[randallscott35]

You mean Monarchos wouldn't have won every Derby but Secretariat's? I'm crushed....time only matters in prison boys and girls.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

....raw time only matters in prison boys and girls.

FTFY. Accurately timed races matter a lot if you know how to use them.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

FTFY. Accurately timed races matter a lot if you know how to use them.

Thank God for Trakus then...I play based on the pretty color of the horses.

[randallscott35]

What's oddest about Haskin's comment is he surely knows better. Maybe someone hacked his twitter account.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by Cardus

I'll take the bait and guess that you are serious, to which I reply, Oh really?

He talks about figures all the time and should have an understanding of times vs. track condition etc...so yes I am serious....odds are it was not hacked I know...everyone makes mistakes...just keep talking about dapples Steve(H) and it will be all better....your friend, Randy

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

FTFY. Accurately timed races matter a lot if you know how to use them.

While this is slightly off-topic as to the BC, you have tweeted several times about the wide variances of run-up at Gulfstream. Has anyone approached them about this and what has their answer been?

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

While this is slightly off-topic as to the BC, you have tweeted several times about the wide variances of run-up at Gulfstream. Has anyone approached them about this and what has their answer been?

They ignore me. They don't answer emails, and I get the run around when I call.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

They ignore me. They don't answer emails, and I get the run around when I call.

As usual, horse players are not treated like the customers who pay their salary. Ass backwards.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

They ignore me. They don't answer emails, and I get the run around when I call.

Mind boggling.

[cmorioles]

In three different tries, nobody can ever seem to figure out to whom my question should be directed. I suggested the track superintendent, or even the head of the gate crew, to no avail.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by asudevil

Would love to hear a possible explanation from Glen Kozak. More specifically, a technical discussion to help people understand the nuances of track maintenance.

I assume this was meant as a nonsequitur?

[GenuineRisk]

Jay Cronley's column about his handicapping on the Gold Cup was entertaining reading:

http://espn.go.com/horse-racing/stor...988/we-execute

[asudevil]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I assume this was meant as a nonsequitur?

Absolutely not.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by asudevil

Absolutely not.

But it is one.